The style of hat has something to do with it too. There's less variance in say, Homburg brim widths than dress hat brim widths. Ditto with Derbies. On the opposite side of the spectrum, western hats and outback hats are supposed to have wider brims. Of course, not every western looks good on...
Well, I guess more pictures of this hat can go here, because of the indeterminate vintage and refurbishment, but in its original form, it likely belongs in the pre-1940's thread.
I worked a dry diamond crease into it. This definitely has that clay-like felt. I really need to get a scale precise...
Thanks for the kind comments and likes, gents. Art (and David!) do great refurb work at extremely reasonable prices.
Jeff, the 3" includes the curls, the 'apparent brim width' is 2.5"
Fresh from a VS refurbishment, a very old Stetson with a pencil curl brim. 5 1/2" open crown, 3" curled brim. Pleased as punch with how this turned out. Unfortunately, the original ribbon could not be saved, but Art replaced it with some vintage 4 ligne.
Do you have pictures of the size tag, liner, and any labels on the inside of the crown?
It certainly could be very early, that die mark is present in the early 1900's catalogue.
Lots of Stetson 100 talk lately, so I pulled out my 60's example. Stopped by the window for Loke's seal of approval...she was nonplussed (i'm the only hat wearer she likes, every other hat wearing human she barks at)
I too would like to see/read a comparison of the modern sterling beaver to the vintage felts.
Just for the record, Optimo has their equivalent of a 100 in their new collection. It's called the Americana on the page, but tellingly, the URL reads "Shady Oaks ."...
You're over thinking it. Forming a crease is not hard. Almost all creases start with a center dent. I do kind a karate chop. If you're worried about it, grab a rolling pin or paper towel tube and use it to push the crown down. Pinch the front with your fingers, viola. You've done it.
As far as...
Well, I once wet my Resistol with D.C. tap water and it was fine.
Better be safe than sorry, distilled water is optimal. But on the other hand, Roy has no time for distilled water, just turn the shower on!
fascinating "cut away" of the brim sandwich!
I could have sworn I read something in some old source that bodies could be felted that way by starting with one layer; then moving onto the different fiber mixture; then placing a burlap "cap" over the top half of the hood before adding more fibers...
Yah, 2019 is starting off with two Stetson refurbs. Although with both Bob and Art having pretty full work benches, it may be a while before I receive them.
Indeed! Thanks again to Vic (and Garrett!) for passing on two great hats to breath new life into.
Well, sometimes you put it out there into the world that you're looking for a black Boss Raw Edge and then carouselvic swoops in like a Fedora Lounge hat angel to offer a very old Stetson in need of a sweatband. Unfortunately the quality designation of the felt (and whether this is a "true" Boss...
M. Miller & Co. was founded in 1890 in Johnstown PA. The Miller family operated the store until 1968, at which point the Clark family took over and still operates the business today.
could only find one picture of the exterior, with the current owner.
The hat I have that was sold from this...
Nice work! I think you probably did more actual work than that Fouquet dude himself. Nice ribbon choice and proportions. Posts like these make me feel like I should give it a try just once.
Consider adding your work into a great new thread that was recently started...
I would defer to Alan's observations on the hat.
As I noted when Scott posted the hat originally, there is a regional variation of the OR with a curled brim known as the Hemphill Open Road. Hemphill, TX is in the east, near the Louisana border. I don't think this was ever offered as a factory...
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