it's more to do with the stiffener/shellac than the felt fibers themselves, though I don't know the mechanics of it. Felts tend to shrink over time, which manifests as tapering of the crown, or curling of the brim.
it's not so much the stiffness as it is that they stopped making them open crown hats and pressing in the cattleman crease. That shape is set into the felt with steam and pressure, which makes it hard to undo.
Basically, look for the oldest hat you can find. The most common in the vintage...
Stetson is in a weird place in a weird market.
There is some section of consumers willing to spend $600-$1,500 on a hat. Between the number of custom hatters, brands like Optimo, and yes, even Fouquet, there is a market there. But these brands position and market themselves as luxury items...
Well...how wet is "quite wet?"
If the hat was not soaked through the the core, soaking it through to the core with a garden hose seems a bit much to me. I don't know that a modern hatco hat would come through looking so fresh after a treatment like that, especially if one does not have their...
Steam, brush, repeat.
If that doesn't work, get a hat sponge. Steam, sponge, brush.
if that doesn't work, get a treated hat sponge, and/or a light hat cleaner such as the one offered by Bickmore.
If that doesn't work, send it out.
Take a look at the services offered by hatters. Sweatband replacement runs $35-$50 typically.
There are lots of folks out there already on etsy and what not, trying to leech off the Fouquet aesthetic. Personally, I would not pay what these folks are asking for "renovated" hats.
But I am just...
I am in the pro Black hat group (three old [two refurbs], three modern)
Top: Stetson/VS Columbia, Stetson standard quality featherweight, modern Premier Strat, VS Dualist
Bottom: Resistol Coburn, Stetson/BSHW Supper Club Royal Stetson Deluxe
Yes, we try to be mindful of forum clutter. Also, as many of us are interested in the historical details, it helps keep the forum more organized for such purposes.
There are existing threads - including "ask a question, get an answer" - that cover almost everything already.
Well, the difference between the two is fairly negligible. They'd have a slightly different profiles, and the Strat has a deeper flange.
But, unless you've got a hatter with the right block and flange - to my mind at least - you're not so much converting from one to the other as you are just...
Well, I think we have to define our terms.
The modern hats are more or less the same in terms of felt quality. The Premier hats are made with Royal Deluxe quality felt.
Since the block number is no longer listed on modern hats, we can't definitively say what's being used, but my understanding...
Ok, finally have some good anecdotes for this thread. The past two trips I've taken, I selected my Stetson Junior Cowboy. It's silverbelly (well, one of those light tones, I'm not the best at deciphering between the light neutral colors like sand and whatnot) so it matches easily.
Back in...
Well, I am actually posting from back home in SF, but my last stop in NYC this morning was at JJ Hat Center. I didn't buy anything, the other hat in my hand is my Penman that I had wanted to get customized by their in house milliner, Van Hyunh. Unfortunately, due to a fire in the adjacent...
I suspect it's earlier than 50's. Some quick google hits on the store have it showing up in the 20's and 30's.
Standard Quality and featherweight both point to it being earlier than 50's, IIRC.
Any markings on the inside of the sweatband? Paper tags under the liner?
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