Personally I'm so much happier since I've abondoned the notion of a "perfect fit" ™I love the jacket overall, leather is incredible, but I always consider selling because it's not the usual "perfect" fit LOL.
Personally I'm so much happier since I've abondoned the notion of a "perfect fit" ™I love the jacket overall, leather is incredible, but I always consider selling because it's not the usual "perfect" fit LOL.
I don't own any of those anymore, all I have now is a closet full of true vintage pieces. I think my favorite pattern remains the 50' halfbelt (in the photos I have one shown in midnight blue, black and cordovan). The bootlegger is a nice pattern too. My least favorite are the CR and PHWM. J 106 is great but has a bit of taper.You sir have a magnificient collection.
Which aero jacket do you think is most comfortable and non-restricting?
And is your J106 motorcycle jacket comfortable around the waist (bottom hem)?
I have some excessive girth so bottom hem is an important factor for me when choosing the size but Aero does not provide the bottom hem measurements... (my size 44 cafe racer fits well in the chest and shoulder but too tight around the torso when zipped up)
Personally I'm so much happier since I've abondoned the notion of a "perfect fit" ™
Thanks for sharing your insight.I don't own any of those anymore, all I have now is a closet full of true vintage pieces. I think my favorite pattern remains the 50' halfbelt (in the photos I have one shown in midnight blue, black and cordovan). The bootlegger is a nice pattern too. My least favorite are the CR and PHWM. J 106 is great but has a bit of taper.
The Japanese are not pretending that their technique is superior to others. And they are not saying something along the lines of "our jackets are superior to Scottish made jackets because of this feature" whereas Aero...
I hear ya. That's why I put it in quotes. I've made my expectations a lot more reasonable from where I started. I'm ok with some stray lines, a fit that I can properly breathe in, etc. etc. But that clump of material creasing like that isn't necessarily a question of fit. It doesn't look right and more importantly, there's other jackets and other manufacturers that don't have that issue. I'm going to keep playing around with it, maybe take to a good tailor to see what they think. That gorgeous brown CXL makes we want to keep trying. I finally got it all broken in and it's so nice.I never really looked for it, if a jacket suits you it will look good even it is not perfectly fitting. Case in point my tan Thedi made me look good even with a 10kg fluctuation in weight.
Actually, they 100% do this, often by whispering gossip about other brands. Furthermore, their dealers in the West go all in on "JAPANESE IS ALWAYS THE BEST" (which is far from the marketing or belief in Japan, where American and British made stuff is adored.)
Pretty much all the Japanese brands have some kind of personal beef with each other. For instance, the current RMC has a grudge with every company that is affiliated with the original iteration of RMC (like Toys McCoy, Freewheelers, Buzz Rickson's) and its ownership will spread rumors about them. The owner of current RMC likes to tell people that his competition is all secretly made in China, for example.
Skiving is not some super-skill. Every single leatherworker can do it.
Actually, they 100% do this, often by whispering gossip about other brands. Furthermore, their dealers in the West go all in on "JAPANESE IS ALWAYS THE BEST" (which is far from the marketing or belief in Japan, where American and British made stuff is adored.)
Pretty much all the Japanese brands have some kind of personal beef with each other. For instance, the current RMC has a grudge with every company that is affiliated with the original iteration of RMC (like Toys McCoy, Freewheelers, Buzz Rickson's) and its ownership will spread rumors about them. The owner of current RMC likes to tell people that his competition is all secretly made in China, for example.
Aero doesn't skive because they follow the construction methods of a particular era of American jackets (despite being British themselves), which includes not skiving. I said myself I don't think this is a good match with some of the heavyweight leathers they use– but the fact that they do this takes more effort, not less. Skiving is not some super-skill. Every single leatherworker can do it.
An Alpha flight jacket will have a completely smooth arm, unlike a Buzz Rickson's or RMC. There's no 'practical' benefit to the latter, and it arguably looks sloppy. I still prefer it.
I hear ya. That's why I put it in quotes. I've made my expectations a lot more reasonable from where I started. I'm ok with some stray lines, a fit that I can properly breathe in, etc. etc. But that clump of material creasing like that isn't necessarily a question of fit. It doesn't look right and more importantly, there's other jackets and other manufacturers that don't have that issue. I'm going to keep playing around with it, maybe take to a good tailor to see what they think. That gorgeous brown CXL makes we want to keep trying. I finally got it all broken in and it's so nice.
Where does this come from? I know that some fans of Japanese goods in general can be overly enthusiastic, but I have not had any dealer tell me "JAPANESE IS ALWAYS THE BEST".
Futhermore, I speak Japanese and often go to Japan, and have never had any of the maker diss others like that. And especially not all makers from a specific country like Ken did.
And how is it a fact that it is easier to skive jackets? As mentioned earlier, if it were better why is Greg skiving his jackets? I highly doubt he took the "easy" way.
It may or may not fit you well, but I don't think it can be any worse than this particular LW.What's funny about this is that this just makes me want to try on an Aero Hooch Hauler... just to see if I like the fit of it more than my A-1. I'd be happy to eat my own words if that jacket fit me well haha.
I don't think this jacket shows good pattern at all. The left sleeve looks like it's twisted.it still looks pretty decent on me to be honest. This is a pretty solid pattern, though I think the arms are just too wide. Yes, you could say it looks better just because I'm smaller here, but still, I think this helps show that Lost Worlds does good patterns.
Fair enough. I do think the sleeves are way too wide. It is used so I didn't think that was down to pattern. In hindsight, this jacket was a bad example and I will admit that. I'm going to go back and remove it from the post.It may or may not fit you well, but I don't think it can be any worse than this particular LW.
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I don't think this jacket shows good pattern at all. The left sleeve looks like it's twisted.
Im curious where this is coming from? As it seems very substance-less and based on a lot of guess work. Wouldnt you say that Western dealers favoring japanese made jackets is comparable to Japanese dealers favoring western jackets? Just curious as to what the evidence for this 'slander' is?
I think this statement is also unfair, although any leatherworker can skive, it still takes skill to do it well and with precision to suit a garment. The same way that anyone can do a nonskived jacket, but not everyone can do it well, persay, your example of Aero.
Well I'm not attractive.
I agree. It is also not "all Japanese brands have beef with each other" if it is only RMC speaking out against the rest, is it?Where does this come from? I know that some fans of Japanese goods in general can be overly enthusiastic, but I have not had any dealer tell me "JAPANESE IS ALWAYS THE BEST".
Futhermore, I speak Japanese and often go to Japan, and have never had any of the maker diss others like that. And especially not all makers from a specific country like Ken did.
And how is it a fact that it is easier to skive jackets? As mentioned earlier, if it were better why is Greg skiving his jackets? I highly doubt he took the "easy" way.
Maybe try contacting JL? If there is a fix, they should be able to do it and they are experienced with CXL. And yes, I agree, that clump of material is a pattern issue not a fit issue. REminds me that these jackets crease on normal hangers while others don't. Hence that weird hanger Aero sells
Sorry, missed this one while I was replying.
No, the Japanese like the American stuff because of the 'heritage', which is why you also see things like Lee Archives Japan. It's not based on a claim that any place makes the ultimate, better than everywhere, stuff. The American marketing of Japanese workwear is based on such a claim.
Thanks a lot! I finished learning your collection of jackets this morning.I'm 6'2" 185lb, 42" chest, 33" waist, 19.5" shoulders