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German & Austrian Hutmachers

Mean Eyed Matt

One Too Many
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Germany
Thanks! I have tried to find actual D.R.G.M. records but haven't been successful. This would be very helpful with hats that have trademarks but no company mark. The current German trademark searches are not complete. Do you have any ideas?

I'm sorry: for moment I have no more information about DRGM. Don't know if there is such a record list. But in contrast to real patents I never saw DRGM-numbers. You should ask Fastuni, he could know better.
 
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Maryland
While looking through the Rockel thread on my website I noticed that the same "Echter Rockel Hut" placard is hanging in this Rockel & Co. trade show display (under the Rockel & Co. sign).

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Steve1857

I'll Lock Up
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Denmark
While looking through the Rockel thread on my website I noticed that the same "Echter Rockel Hut" placard is hanging in this Rockel & Co. trade show display (under the Rockel & Co. sign).

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Cool. Steve, you're so good at finding great hats and interesting historical hat related items. Thanks for sharing your finds and knowledge.

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Nederland
"Echter Rockel Hut" Rockel Alsfeld, Kraemer & Van Elsberg, G.M.B.H. Köln probably late 1920s or 1930s. I really like marketing / sales items like this placard. The placard has an patented enamel coating and a unique folding stand. Kraemer & Van Elsberg, G.M.B.H. Köln were known for such enamel placards. I also really like the Rockel logo and "Echter Rockel Hut" typography.

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This placard is covered with Simili-Enamel. D.R. Patent. Often cleaning with a soft, damp cloth gives the placard its original appearance. Kraemer & van Elsberg, G.rn.b.H., Cologne

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Great find, Steve. Looks to be in nice shape too!
 
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Maryland
A photo , like a picture, can say a thousand words, but wouldn't we all just love to see, feel, and try on for ourselves the hats our fellow FL friends post. I know I would [emoji5]

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Steve, If you visit the Washington, DC / Baltimore area you can check out my collection (there are lot of hats).
 
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Richard Morgan

One Too Many
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Central Tesxas
I bought this hat a couple of weeks ago. I have one other german hat, a Wegener, that I like so much I thought I would take a chance on this one. It is also very nice, soft felt, great color and I like the small sharks gill. It's a Mayser Milz. I read through most of this thread and saw a few examples of earlier Mayser Milz Cie. hats. I would guess this hat is from the 70s, though the oil skin tip protector would be out of place on a hat that new. Can anyone tell me anything about this version of Mayser Milz?
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Richard Morgan

One Too Many
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Central Tesxas
Richard, Super! It's post 1970 and my guess would be mid to later 1970s maybe 1980s. I am not sure if it was made in Ulm or Lindenberg. The Mayser Brand hats from the same time period have a similar paper label.

Thanks Steve, After these first two, the German hats will be a higher priority for me. May warrant a road trip to antique shops in some of the historically German towns south of here.
 
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Albany Oregon
I finally can post a hat on this thread. Today my Hückel Chamois fedora in black arrived from France. The finish on the felt is so soft and smooth. It was a little crushed by the international travel, but responded to a little steam bath nicely. I am thinking this may be a newer hat. Some details like plastic lining behind the sweat and the shaped crown insert seem more modern. The sweatband is paper thin, not in a bad way, but not supple. The stamping on the sweat is of the same quality of a modern Stetson. Overall, a very nice hat. It is too big at 7 3/8, but shimming should help.

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