German & Austrian Hutmachers

[Redfokker]

I posted pics of this hat when I first got it, under $30 IIRC, but these will be the first head shots, I think. The color is pretty accurate on my screen, kind of a dark moss color.

The ends of the satin (?) twisted rope used for the hat band had frayed and the insides were a different color. It was something that irked me, so I took a mini Blazer torch lighter and lit the ends. Now the ends are black and don't stick out so much, LOL. But I like it better.

Oh, and I hit the front brim with some steam to straighten up the wonky-ness...

The before pic of the frayed ends:

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So perfect for the Mt. Angel Octoberfest! Have a sausage and enjoy.

 

[steur]

great hats as usual, oddly the same statesman Adenauer made a cameo in a detective fiction novel i was reading not half an hour ago, set between the wars. I'm getting over flu, so reading garbage. Odd coincidence, don't think i'd thought about that european in years.

Stefan, I discovered Adenauer's Homburg was a P. & C. Habig Wien purchased at Hellings Bonn. I had the museum remove the hat so I could see the underside.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/230-gotisches-haus-gothic-house-hat-museum-bad-homburg-vor-der-höhe-germany/#entry1358

Karl, Steve, thanks. When I took it out I found that it actually fits me better than I remembered. I like the Colonel-line of Wegener best of their hats, I must say.

 

[steur]

HutHase (Hat Hare) Dresden Chemnitz Leipzig, H. Pohl Leipzig W-31 "Silka Carton D.R.G.N."

J. Hückel ´s Söhne "Flexible" "Seal Velour" made for HutHase (the case was most likely made for a Silk Top Hat)

H. Pohl Advertisement (Dehazet Supplier Directory For The Entire Hat Industry And Related Businesses, 1928)

H. Pohl Advertisments (Deutsche Hutmacher-Zeitung / German Hatmaker News, 1913)

Great finds again, Steve. Especially in combination with that lovely hat.

 

[steur]

Thanks! Yes Oktoberfest starts tomorrow.

Here is an old / rare J.Hückel´s Söhne "Prima" from the 1930s. I have posted this one before but I will post it again for Oktoberfest 2017.

Original Feather with Edelweiss holder (removed for photos)

Great quality velour hat, Steve. For me these trachten hats have a very strong link to the region they originate from (Bavaria, Tirol e.a.), which makes them less wearable outside of that region. But that could be just me.

 

[Steve1857]

Karl, Steve, thanks. When I took it out I found that it actually fits me better than I remembered. I like the Colonel-line of Wegener best of their hats, I must say.

+1 on that. I have a Wegener Colonel Homburg from the late 50's. Lovely softish felt. It fits like a glove. Definitely one of my favourites.

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[Mean Eyed Matt]

HutHase (Hat Hare) Dresden Chemnitz Leipzig, H. Pohl Leipzig W-31 "Silka Carton D.R.G.N."

J. Hückel ´s Söhne "Flexible" "Seal Velour" made for HutHase (the case was most likely made for a Silk Top Hat)

H. Pohl Advertisement (Dehazet Supplier Directory For The Entire Hat Industry And Related Businesses, 1928)

H. Pohl Advertisments (Deutsche Hutmacher-Zeitung / German Hatmaker News, 1913)

That's a nice collection with the box and all these advertisements! Congrats!
Just a small comment:
The 4 characters are D.R.G.M. = Deutsches Reichs-GebrauchsMuster
This is like a patent to protect original products and used till 1945 - so the hat box must be before.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebrauchsmuster

 

[steur]

Goldsiegel Trachten (I think this is a nice one.)

Another one

Love that colour combination. Somehow this hat comes more close to the fedora style hat and I would certainly be more comfortable wearing that one as opposed to the green one. It has less of the trachten feel to it. I have a Goldsiegel homburg; great quality hat.

 

[mayserwegener]

I'm astounded daily at the quality of your hats, Steve. Impressive, to say the least.

Thanks!

Definitely +1 on that!

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Thank you!

 

[mayserwegener]

Great quality velour hat, Steve. For me these trachten hats have a very strong link to the region they originate from (Bavaria, Tirol e.a.), which makes them less wearable outside of that region. But that could be just me.

I usually wear mine to Oktoberfest type events. We have such events because of large past German immigrations. Yes the GoldSiegel has a standard Soft Felt Dress Hat form so could be worn outside of such events. Some people might also wear the more Alpine forms while hiking or hunting.

 

[mayserwegener]

That's a nice collection with the box and all these advertisements! Congrats!
Just a small comment:
The 4 characters are D.R.G.M. = Deutsches Reichs-GebrauchsMuster
This is like a patent to protect original products and used till 1945 - so the hat box must be before.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebrauchsmuster

Thanks! I have tried to find actual D.R.G.M. records but haven't been successful. This would be very helpful with hats that have trademarks but no company mark. The current German trademark searches are not complete. Do you have any ideas?

 

[michael78]

Hi Steve i particularly like the profile on this hat...what hight is the crown?....gorgeous colour again!!

 

[mayserwegener]

Michael, Thanks! The crown on the Goldsiegel Trachten is probably around 5 1/2 inches open. The hat is probably from the early 1960s.

 

[mayserwegener]

Lembert "Extra", 58cm probably later 1950s early 1960s. The brim has massive flange which is interesting. The interior is very soiled so not so appealing but I like the form.

Natural Light

 

[FedOregon]

Very nice, Steve.

 

[mayserwegener]

Thanks!

 

[mayserwegener]

"Echter Rockel Hut" Rockel Alsfeld, Kraemer & Van Elsberg, G.M.B.H. Köln probably late 1920s or 1930s. I really like marketing / sales items like this placard. The placard has an patented enamel coating and a unique folding stand. Kraemer & Van Elsberg, G.M.B.H. Köln were known for such enamel placards. I also really like the Rockel logo and "Echter Rockel Hut" typography.

This placard is covered with Simili-Enamel. D.R. Patent. Often cleaning with a soft, damp cloth gives the placard its original appearance. Kraemer & van Elsberg, G.rn.b.H., Cologne

 

[Chepstow]

awesome stuff the last few weeks, Gentleman,
but Steve top it all with his always rare finds.
Super enamel placard Steve.
Nothing new on the Hat front in Germany.
Not the right weather for nice trips to fleamarkets.



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[mayserwegener]

Manfred, Thanks! I really like the "Echter Rockel Hut" placard too. I have already set it up for display. Sorry to hear that the Flea Market weather situation hasn't been good. I will put in a good thought for this coming weekend!

By the way do you know what "Simili-" means?

 

[Chepstow]

Thanks Steve!
That is what I found.
Translation
Strass (also Stras) refers to glass stones made of lead-containing glass flux (enamel), which have been used since the 18th century as imitations of diamonds. Earlier were also not considered rhinestone, because crystals from the Rhine as the first diamondimitur. "STRASS" has been registered since 1998

Simili is the name in the past for imitation of Diamonds ( Glass )
Melted Glass coating!
The German Text
Strass (auch Stras) bezeichnet Glas-Steine aus bleihaltigem Glasfluss (Email), die seit dem 18. Jahrhundert als Imitationen von Diamanten verwendet werden. Früher wurden diese auch als Simili bezeichnet, im Englischen heute noch als Rhinestone, weil Kristalle aus dem Rhein als die ersten Diamantimitate verwendet wurden. „STRASS“ ist seit 1998 eingetragenes Warenzeichen der Swarovski AG.


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[mayserwegener]

Manfred, Thanks!