dhermann1
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How snug fitting are they?
dhermann1 said:How snug fitting are they?
dhermann1 said:Moving over to the white tie and tails side of this thread, I'd like to find out about one of the more esoteric aspects of full white tie mufti, the white kid gloves. According to everything I've read, a gentleman must wear gloves that match his overcoat, when he is outdoors, but when he is wearing white tie indoors, he must wear white kid gloves.
I just bought a nice new pair of white kid gloves, and am hoping they're correct. Anyone have any pics of correct kid gloves?
Oh, and how about canes? I've seen some comments that say it should be an ebony or black cane, but I've also seen plain crook wooden canes in many movies. I suspect the latter were completely standard back in the day.
Charlie Huang said:Cane: for evening wear it should be black ebony with a silver top (gold if your accessories are also gold but that's not essential). I've seen some use a malacca cane with gold/silver top but I feel that this is more appropriate for day wear. Again, should be checked in upon arrival (like top hats, overcoats and scarves) as it is an outdoor accessory.
Midnight Blue said:Charlie, I'm curious to know where you got the cane information as all the historical etiquette guides I've researched say exactly the opposite.
Charlie Huang said:From NJS's book plus some logical inference.
Chasseur said:I'm not a expert here, but one does see black waiscoats worn with white tail and tails in photographs and fashion plates from about 1880 to 1920 or so. Here is that nice photo of Ataturk that pops up now and again.
Charlie Huang said:White bow tie with black tie: I've seen a print or two with this combo so I cannot see it as being proscribed save that it is a very rare or eccentric thing to do (with a white waistcoat of course).
AntonAAK said:I tend to agree but then these whims become approprited into society and become prescriptive.
So yes, somebody wore a black tie and liked it. Others copied him and it became a fashion. After not so many years it became a rule and a white tie with a dinner jacket is deemed 'incorrect'.
That such things can happen I find interesting.
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