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  1. jlee562

    Stetson No. 1 Quality

    thanks gents, it's a real treat to handle these old felts. I spent some time last night with steam, hat brush, hat sponge, and some jojoba oil. Turned out better than I thought it would, wearable even! Though I've given a thought to seeing if the Oakland Museum of California would want it as a...
  2. jlee562

    Post New Hats Here!

    1922 Stetson No. 1 Quality. complete rundown in the No. 1 Quality thread.
  3. jlee562

    Stetson Sweat Stamps/ LOT XXXX

    Yup, that's the Grail hat, right there!
  4. jlee562

    Stetson No. 1 Quality

    Well, the "Ranger" hat came in today. The good? The sweatband is still fairly soft, despite the hat showing signs that it was not stored in the most ideal of conditions. I was able to gently turn it out to document the innards. The brim is still very stiff, the crown much less so. The original...
  5. jlee562

    Stetson Hat help

    Just looking at the styling, I'd say 70's or later. But I know very little about Canadian Stetsons.
  6. jlee562

    The Non Shorpy Web All Stars.

    Still can't really find any info related to my hat, but I did find some cool local history photos. University of California at Berkeley 1896:
  7. jlee562

    Stetson No. 1 Quality

    Very cool to see the #52 block on a Western!
  8. jlee562

    HOLY GRAIL? /What fedoras are you pining for?

    Still looking for these....Currently digging Optimo's gunsmoke in the 1000 line. And Art now offers an undyed true Silverbelly. But that's really more of a "if I won the lotto"/sudden cash windfall kind of hat. Would still love an old 7xCB thin ribbon. And certainly an early Boss of the Plains...
  9. jlee562

    What Hat Are You Wearing Today 1?

    Great look! I love both the cap and shirt fabrics, and they're an excellent match.
  10. jlee562

    Ask a question, get an answer

    I mean, I'm not going to refuse a consultant's fee.
  11. jlee562

    Snap brim and rain

    Well gee, the entire hat industry has been doing it wrong this whole time I guess. If you really want to get into the nifty gritty, yes, felts continue to felt over time. Modern felts especially, as they are not felted as densely as in the past and there is less attention paid to the...
  12. jlee562

    Post New Hats Here!

    Fantastic Stetson, Max! I remember when you first asked about vintage felts, I said an old clear beaver might match up to your Optimo. How do you find it now that you have two such exemplary hats in your collection?
  13. jlee562

    Snap brim and rain

    Stiffener =/= water protection.
  14. jlee562

    Snap brim and rain

    Generally speaking there are two broad categories of hats (at least as far as contemporaneous trade language is concerned) stiff and soft felt hats. A Derby both has more shellac than a soft felt hat, but the felt blank itself is treated with stiffener before dying, rather than after as is the...
  15. jlee562

    Snap brim and rain

    then we are right back to what's already been said. You 'undid' the flange by drying the brim down. Steam it, and dry it flat. No.
  16. jlee562

    Snap brim and rain

    they're not 'snappable' because they are stiff felt felts that were neither designed, nor flanged, to be a snap brim fedora.
  17. jlee562

    Snap brim and rain

    this doesn't make any sense to me. It's just a piece of felt, push it back up. Are you saying that the brim won't stay up if you unsnap it? Or are you saying you feel the felt resisting the pressure you're trying to apply to push it back up? short answer, no. It has to do with the degree of...
  18. jlee562

    Snap brim and rain

    Or don't listen to me, listen to Graham: https://optimo.com/hat-care
  19. jlee562

    Snap brim and rain

    :rolleyes: Oooookay. If your hat already got wet enough to dry in a different shape, steam will not hurt the felt. When you say the brim is "permanently" down, I'm not sure what you mean. Well, it could mean that there's not enough stiffener, and the brim is drooping, but what you seem to be...
  20. jlee562

    The Non Shorpy Web All Stars.

    Doing some research on the 1922 Stetson I just picked up by scanning the UC Berkeley digital archives. Apropos of what we were discussing in the "stingy brim" thread, there's a good variety of styles. 1931. 1927. Unknown date.

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