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[jlee562]

I mean, I'm not going to refuse a consultant's fee.

 

[Frunobulax]

I mean, I'm not going to refuse a consultant's fee.

LOL


Sent directly from my mind to yours.

 

[CommonTerri]

Thank you! I've been selling on Ebay for over 10 years and I'm usually pretty self-sufficient, but I'm a relative newbie when it comes to hats and I was stumped by a couple of things while trying to research this one.

1. It's labeled as a "Pocket Hat", yet when searching this term, all roads seemed to lead to a foldable version with a triangular case, not this one.

2. I'm assuming the size is a 6 and not a 9. Do you think it's what's referred to as Punti Sizing?

3. What's the most accurate way for me to take a measurement? Measure along the top edge of the sweatband after it's been flipped up? You already taught me something as I wouldn't have thought of flipping the sweatband up. In this case, the only other information there is a very blurry number.

4. Is there a specific name to describe the ribbed texture?

Now, I'll attempt to post some photos. Remember, you asked for lots of them

 

[CommonTerri]

 

[CommonTerri]

You posted your questions in the right place. I'd suggest you post photos and details of your find in "The Borsalino Brotherhood" thread on this site for more information on the hat you described. Reading through the thread may also answer your questions.

Sorry, already posted here before I saw your reply. Should I delete and move over to The Brotherhood?

 

[deadlyhandsome]

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The 6 is indeed French Punti sizing units. Strange that the red stamping on the sweat looks to be a 6 and then some fraction.

Pocket hats are common and usually have a cloth or unreeded leather sweatband that allowed them to be folded up. The proportions of yours are not what most of us look for; regardless of quality, such hats rarely bring more than a modest price.

Try using google to search the Lounge. Some add “fedora Lounge” to their search, but I just search the Lounge first and use the google search feature:

 

[CommonTerri]

Thank you very much for the information.

 

[carouselvic]

Punti does use a fraction.....not strange at all

 

[mayserwegener]

The 6 is indeed French Punti sizing units. Strange that the red stamping on the sweat looks to be a 6 and then some fraction.

Pocket hats are common and usually have a cloth or unreeded leather sweatband that allowed them to be folded up. The proportions of yours are not what most of us look for; regardless of quality, such hats rarely bring more than a modest price.

Try using google to search the Lounge. Some add “fedora Lounge” to their search, but I just search the Lounge first and use the google search feature:

It's actually French Point. It's a French size unit not Italian.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Punti does use a fraction.....not strange at all

I thought it was strange since the size tag was a whole number and the stamping was a fraction.

 

[mayserwegener]

There are 1/4 Point units but I don't think they were used post WWII.

Der Filzhut (The Felt Hat), seine Geschichte und seine Herstellung (Its History and Preparation). Hrsg.v.d. Deutschen Hutmacher-Zeitung (German Hat Maker Newspaper). 1936

Here are couple examples. Weite = Size

 

[Redfokker]

There are 1/4 Point units but I don't they were used post WWII.

Der Filzhut (The Felt Hat), seine Geschichte und seine Herstellung (Its History and Preparation). Hrsg.v.d. Deutschen Hutmacher-Zeitung (German Hat Maker Newspaper). 1936

Here are couple examples. Weite = Size

Wonderful information Steve. Even if the OR doesn't appreciate or understand it, I am a better collector due to your knowledge.

 

[alanfgag]

Pocket hats are common...

Are they?

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Are they?

I’m a 7 5/8 to 7 3/4 and I’ve passed on a few so I figured they couldn’t be that rare. Maybe the stars just aligned?


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[alanfgag]

I’m a 7 5/8 to 7 3/4 and I’ve passed on a few so I figured they couldn’t be that rare. Maybe the stars just aligned?

The term "pocket hat" has been used around the Fedora Lounge to describe Borsalino hats in export boxes. Borsalino hats with the sweatband imprinted "Pocket Hat" do not seem to be that common, and those with a grosgrain rather than leather sweatband - I remember seeing two over the years I've been around.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

The term "pocket hat" has been used around the Fedora Lounge to describe Borsalino hats in export boxes. Borsalino hats with the sweatband imprinted "Pocket Hat" do not seem to be that common, and those with a grosgrain rather than leather sweatband - I remember seeing two over the years I've been around.

Thank you for this. I read the pocket hat thread and the linked info in the Borsalino Brotherhood. I was most certainly guilty of labeling all “foldaway” types as pocket hats. I do enjoy the ongoing education and appreciate the willingness of others to share what they know. Thanks again,

Brent


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[alanfgag]

Thank you for this. I read the pocket hat thread and the linked info in the Borsalino Brotherhood. I was most certainly guilty of labeling all “foldaway” types as pocket hats. I do enjoy the ongoing education and appreciate the willingness of others to share what they know. Thanks again,

Brent

sure thing!

 

[Just Jim]

Any idea when Stetson added the metric size tag?

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Any idea when Stetson added the metric size tag?

Have you looked here?

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/dating-vintage-stetsons-by-size-tag.46483/


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[drmaxtejeda]

What is the OPS period?

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