The BORSALINO BROTHERHOOD

[DRB]

Thanks guys! No hurries, no worries. Part of savoring a favorite hat is the search.

I did find this company, it is in Venezuela. Not a good idea to order from Venezuela right now I believe.
http://www.borsalino.com.ve/?fbclid=IwAR0mB9jrCDjDOV5U8KqEhv2hMfg8T_tg4RPRpwOFUOjK6lv528iLYK-qamQ

 

[mayserwegener]

Thanks guys! No hurries, no worries. Part of savoring a favorite hat is the search.

I did find this company, it is in Venezuela. Not a good idea to order from Venezuela right now I believe.
http://www.borsalino.com.ve/?fbclid=IwAR0mB9jrCDjDOV5U8KqEhv2hMfg8T_tg4RPRpwOFUOjK6lv528iLYK-qamQ

Interesting! I wonder if they are made under license? I see some Tonak - Hückel Hats listed. Tonak Hückel "Guama Somberero" go back a while.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/6-johann-hückel´s-söhne-hückel-hutfabrik-weilheim/page-5#entry652

Update: I found the following on their site (translated).

"The hat factory Otto Schirmer, was born in the center of Valencia in 1924. From 1936, "La Casa del Sombrero", develops the sale and distribution of the most recognized brands: Borsalino, Huckel and the famous "Peloguama". At present, and after more than 80 years, the house of the hat produces, under registered license, the Borsalino hats, pride of the national industry."

It's possible they have the Hückel trademark for Venezuela or have some deal with Tonak.

 

[Just Daniel]

Nice.

I thought I'd share this link my son sent me recently.
He said he isn't endorsing or supporting "this hobby of yours".
He is more antagonistic to my hat addiction than my wife is. LOL!
Anyway, I found this article interesting:


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-millennials-italian-hat-maker-tries-new-look

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[DRB]

Interesting! I wonder if they are made under license? I see some Tonak - Hückel Hats listed. Tonak Hückel "Guama Somberero" go back a while.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/6-johann-hückel´s-söhne-hückel-hutfabrik-weilheim/page-5#entry652

I did see a Huckel 4 and Huckel 5 which looked amazing.

 

[mayserwegener]

I did see a Huckel 4 and Huckel 5 which looked amazing.

I updated my post.

 

[DRB]

A Licensed dealer in Venezuela. It makes me wonder if there are more countries out there with a license.

 

[M Hatman]

Interesting! I wonder if they are made under license? I see some Tonak - Hückel Hats listed. Tonak Hückel "Guama Somberero" go back a while.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/6-johann-hückel´s-söhne-hückel-hutfabrik-weilheim/page-5#entry652

Update: I found the following on their site (translated).

"The hat factory Otto Schirmer, was born in the center of Valencia in 1924. From 1936, "La Casa del Sombrero", develops the sale and distribution of the most recognized brands: Borsalino, Huckel and the famous "Peloguama". At present, and after more than 80 years, the house of the hat produces, under registered license, the Borsalino hats, pride of the national industry."

It's possible they have the Hückel trademark for Venezuela or have some deal with Tonak.

I just LOVE the history you add here!!!!!

 

[mayserwegener]

I just LOVE the history you add here!!!!!

Mark, Thanks!

 

[mayserwegener]

A Licensed dealer in Venezuela. It makes me wonder if there are more countries out there with a license.

Dennis, I know J. Hückel´s Söhne (JHS) go way back regarding Venezuela (JHS became Tonak after WWII). Here is a photo from the early 1900s of JHS packing probably semi finished hats to C.D. Bolivar, Venezuela.

Click on Photo Enlarge

 

[DRB]

Steve, that's an amazing photo!

 

[M Hatman]

Dennis, I know J. Hückel´s Söhne (JHS) go way back regarding Venezuela (JHS became Tonak after WWII). Here is a photo from the early 1900s of JHS packing probably semi finished hats to C.D. Bolivar, Venezuela.

Click on Photo Enlarge

DOC....is this how you have been packing YOUR hat hauls lately?!?!?!?!

 

[steur]

sfinge:

View attachment 158178

vintage, of course...

Oooooooh envy...

 

[steur]

Does Borsalino make any hats in Silverbelly color? I have not found any.

Another Sfinge (with a more velour finish)

or Ghiaccio

 

[mayserwegener]

Steve, that's an amazing photo!

Dennis, Thank you!

 

[M Hatman]

Another Sfinge (with a more velour finish)
View attachment 158344

or Ghiaccio
View attachment 158345

Those are awsome.......they dont happen to be a size 60 or 61 do they?
M

 

[DRB]

Another Sfinge (with a more velour finish)
View attachment 158344

or Ghiaccio
View attachment 158345

Wow, those are really amazing fedoras. Borsalino felt. I am sure they are soft. You are one lucky guy. Knowledge is power. Now I know what names to search for. Thanks!

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

Another Sfinge (with a more velour finish)
View attachment 158344

or Ghiaccio
View attachment 158345

Gorgeous!!
Would love to see the insides!
B

 

[Il Cappello]

I have never posted, but I have read every post on every page of this thread (it took quite a while, and was disappointed many of the photos are missing from the early pages). I am as hooked as you guys are.

I have a new - probably 2015 - Bellini, but that tag was stuck on top of another tag that said Bellagio. Any way to tell the difference?

I am also very interested in grabbing a vintage hat - I fear I'm becoming an addict. I have my eye on a hat from the "other" Borsalino - FU Lazzaro. I don't recall much discussion of Lazzaro, are they comparable in quality? Is there any way to guess the age of a Lazzaro? Thanks in advance for any info, and I'll probably be joining you at the Hataholics Anonymous meetings before too long...

 

[steur]

Wow, those are really amazing fedoras. Borsalino felt. I am sure they are soft. You are one lucky guy. Knowledge is power. Now I know what names to search for. Thanks!

Gorgeous!!
Would love to see the insides!
B

Thanks, guys. Here's a link to the original posting of these:
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/post-new-hats-here.28145/page-1858#post-2421648
Can't find the Ghiaccio for some reason, but here it is again (the brotherhood wil forgive me).

 

[steur]

I have never posted, but I have read every post on every page of this thread (it took quite a while, and was disappointed many of the photos are missing from the early pages). I am as hooked as you guys are.

I have a new - probably 2015 - Bellini, but that tag was stuck on top of another tag that said Bellagio. Any way to tell the difference?

I am also very interested in grabbing a vintage hat - I fear I'm becoming an addict. I have my eye on a hat from the "other" Borsalino - FU Lazzaro. I don't recall much discussion of Lazzaro, are they comparable in quality? Is there any way to guess the age of a Lazzaro? Thanks in advance for any info, and I'll probably be joining you at the Hataholics Anonymous meetings before too long...

First of all: welcome to the lounge. You'll only become more hooked here, but it's a fairly innocent addiction. Borsalino fu Lazzaro has its own thread, which is why you won't find much information about them in the Borsalino Brotherhood thread.
Here's a link to that thread: https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/g-b-borsalino-fu-lazzaro-c-1936.53129/page-1
The brand was bought up by the big Borsalino in 1936 and disappeared as a brand until the 1950's when Borsalino decided to bring the brand back on the market. Real pre-1936 Fu lazzaro hats are quite rare, the newer ones are a bit more common. Both are excellent quality hats; they are Borsalino hats after all.
Can't help you on the Bellini vs Bellagio question I'm afraid. Maybe someone else from the brotherhood will chime in on that one.