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It's incredible that these hats were preserved from the steamboat Arabia.Original hats from 1856 - Arabia Steamboat museum
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Yes, it is amazing.It's incredible that these hats were preserved from the steamboat Arabia.
This hat finally arrived. Has 4 inch bound brim and 6 1/2 inch open crown. There are no mfg tags and nothing written or stamped on the sweatband, which has the old VVVV type stitching. I'll be sending it off for cleaning and a new sweatband.Here's another oldie that's arriving tomorrow and needs serious help. Unknown maker, 4 inch brim, about 6 inch open crown. Looks to date to 1930's or earlier.
The Grizzly Hat after cleaning.1920's or earlier L K & Co. hat, "The Grizzly Hat". Has 3. 3/4 inch bound brim and 5 inch open crown. Brim has a strip of felt for a binding on the top side only. Has a 1 inch ribbon with the bow having the intentionally frayed back edge. This hat would loosely be called a Boss of the Plains or Austral style hat here on the Lounge, I'd say. It's said this hat was from the estate of an Eastern U.S. man who died in his 90's, who had gone out West "around the turn of the Century" i.e. 1900 and brought this hat back East. The hat's seller is in New Hampshire.
The same Unknown Maker hat after cleaning.This hat finally arrived. Has 4 inch bound brim and 6 1/2 inch open crown. There are no mfg tags and nothing written or stamped on the sweatband, which has the old VVVV type stitching. I'll be sending it off for cleaning and a new sweatband.
Here's a couple more photos. The owner's name inside the hat looks like Elmer Keith.. His initials EK were scratched into the sweatband. The last photo is of another NRA period Miller showing the placement of the small size tag. That photo is from pg 7 of this thread, a Miller that belonged to Dinerman. Unfortunately, I don't think he showed the Lot Number anywhere.Early 1930's Miller Fine Hats, Denver, 4X Quality. The brim was originally 4 1/2 inches before the pencil curl and is 4 inches after the curl. Open crown is 7 inches. This hat was made for Miller by Stetson, and has Stetson Lot Number 6634, which I suspect is right around or before the NRA tags began in 1933 because I haven't seen a NRA Stetson yet with a Lot Number as low as the 6600's. The mfg tag is located in the hat in the same general location as a Stetson tag would be, and the small size tag I photographed was in the same area, attached to the sweatband.
Great hat Mike. Is this confirmed, that it’s made by Stetson? Not too familiar with Miller but I don’t believe I’ve read that Stetson made their hats. Theirs been other 30s and older hats that have had LOT #s, and it was assumed that perhaps sweats were purchased from a larger manufacturer.Early 1930's Miller Fine Hats, Denver, 4X Quality. The brim was originally 4 1/2 inches before the pencil curl and is 4 inches after the curl. Open crown is 6 3/4 to 7 inches. This hat was made for Miller by Stetson, and has Stetson Lot Number 6634,
Elmer wore some big hats during his outings. There are a lot of pics of him out there going way back. It would be interesting to research them looking at his hats to match.Here's a couple more photos. The owner's name inside the hat looks like Elmer Keith (?) or similar. His initials EK were scratched into the sweatband. The last photo is of another NRA period Miller showing the placement of the small size tag. That photo is from pg 7 of this thread, a Miller that belonged to Dinerman. Unfortunately, I don't think he showed the Lot Number anywhere.
Are you serious? I can't believe he's an actual known person! By the way, I found that reference to Miller having Stetson make their hats early on. Then about 1908 it"s thought that Schoble made Miller hats into the 20's. See the attachment here.Elmer wore some big hats during his outings. There are a lot of pics of him out there going way back. It would be interesting to research them looking at his hats to match.
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Elmer wore some big hats during his outings.
Absolutely serious. Elmer brought you the 357 and 44 magnums as well as being an icon for worldwide big game hunting and writing. He was also famous for his big hats.Are you serious? I can't believe he's an actual known person! By the way, I found that reference to Miller having Stetson make their hats early on. Then about 1908 it"s thought that Schoble made Miller hats into the 20's. See the attachment here.