Pre 1940s (non-Stetson) Westerns

[RossRYoung]

Here’s what I have from my 1931 scan, Bob. Great find btw!

 

[BobHufford]

Here’s what I have from my 1931 scan, Bob. Great find btw!

Thanks for that Ross! The Big Chief seems to have similar dimensions and look, but the color is different.

 

[MikeinRome]

Emko fedora, 3 1/2 inch brim after curl, 6 inch open crown. Posted on New Hats and Waiting For. Seems pre 1930, possibly pre 1920. Feels like Nutria. Randall has basically a twin to this hat.

 

[BobHufford]

I'd forgotten about this thread -- and I even posted to it not long ago. Thanks for asking about it Mike and pointing us back to it Bama and Jack.

Thought I'd better archive a couple here.

Western from Montgomery Ward (late 1920s). The "Round Up" model. 7-1/2" crown, 5" brim. It doesn't fit me (like advertised), but does fit my wife. Although she is a bit intimidated by it.

A screen printed Pin-Up?

 

[BobHufford]

1930s "Big Bill". 7" crown, 4-3/8" brim. Kid/calf leather band with jeweled, plastic "ornaments". Appears to be fur felt and not wool, but I could be mistaken. It's going to live with Steve soon.

Not sure if that is a beaver in the logo or a beaver / bobcat cross.

Hats with similar bands (although still in one piece).

1930:

1938:

 

[MikeinRome]

An Aetna Carlsbad hat that's been for sale on Etsy for a while. 3 1/2 inch brim, 6 inch open crown. It seems that these so-called Aetna hats, which came in different styles, were really a marketing ploy or gimmick. They touted the claim these were the World's only "insured" hats (by Aetna Insurance Co) guaranteeing you that you had a great hat, or some such garbage.

 

[MikeinRome]

Emko fedora, 3 1/2 inch brim after curl, 6 inch open crown. Posted on New Hats and Waiting For. Seems pre 1930. Feels like Nutria. Randall has basically a twin to this hat.

Here's a Campaign hat said to be from WWI period. It's size tag is very similar to those in our Emko fedoras, so our Emkos might possibly date roughly to the WWI period, or late 1910's. This Campaign hat is listed on eBay right now.

 

[MikeinRome]

Here's an Arrow hat that buler posted about in January and estimated to date 1910's or earlier. It's similar to my Emko and the Boss Raw Edge. It also has a size tag like my Emko.

 

[MikeinRome]

This isn't a Western style hat, but it was in the West. I mention it because it also has a size tag behind sweatband like my Emko, and shows that these rectangular stamp-sized size tags extended back into the 1890's at least. This is the Homburg I just got that came from the I Greentree store in Cheyenne, WY.

 

[Jesse John]

Anybody know much about old Thoroughbred Hats? This is an old velour one I got this past week. When it arrived, it was badly crushed and the oval was a bit wonky because of that. I felt it was best to reblock it the best I could with the blocks I had available without changing the character of the hat too much. Luckily it went fairly well! It came with this beautiful horsehair band as well. Originally sold by "The Denver" or Denver Dry Goods Co. it appears. tagged 7 3/8 but shrunk down quite a bit. The sweatband is super thin! Like paper! Yet still supple. I've never felt anything like it before!

8" crown by 4" brim

 

[MikeinRome]

Very nice, J. J !

 

[BobHufford]

Anybody know much about old Thoroughbred Hats?

Great hat Jesse! Thoroughbred was part of the Langenberg family of brands. That’s about the oldest one I’ve seen.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/thoroughbred-hats.48764/

 

[BobHufford]

Thanks for bumping the thread @Jesse John

1910s/1920s Penney’s Marathon western. 6-3/4" crown, 4" brim. Not sure if the stars reflect a quality level (there is a similarly aged 2-star in the Marathon thread) or something else.

 

[BobHufford]

Circa 1930 Penney's Marathon "Carlsbad" western. Fur felt with leather sweatband. Size 7-1/4. 7-1/2" crown, 4-3/8" brim, 1-1/2" grosgrain ribbon. Pre-1934 union label.

 

[Rmccamey]

Very nice!

Circa 1930 Penney's Marathon "Carlsbad" western. Fur felt with leather sweatband. Size 7-1/4. 7-1/2" crown, 4-3/8" brim, 1-1/2" grosgrain ribbon. Pre-1934 union label.

 

[Blare]

Anybody know much about old Thoroughbred Hats? This is an old velour one I got this past week. When it arrived, it was badly crushed and the oval was a bit wonky because of that. I felt it was best to reblock it the best I could with the blocks I had available without changing the character of the hat too much. Luckily it went fairly well! It came with this beautiful horsehair band as well. Originally sold by "The Denver" or Denver Dry Goods Co. it appears. tagged 7 3/8 but shrunk down quite a bit. The sweatband is super thin! Like paper! Yet still supple. I've never felt anything like it before!

8" crown by 4" brim
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That is one impressive hat Jesse. Even though Langenberg/ Beaver has been around over 100 years…. I don’t too often see examples of theirs stuff say pre 1950s. That is a great find sir.

 

[Jesse John]

Very nice, J. J !

Thank you kind sir!

Great hat Jesse! Thoroughbred was part of the Langenberg family of brands. That’s about the oldest one I’ve seen.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/thoroughbred-hats.48764/

Im happy to have come across it & thats exciting stuff! Its a super unique find. Hoping I can find it in a dry goods catalog one day. Happy to bump the thread but boyy did you show me up with those Marathon posts. Holy Cow! Amazing.

That is one impressive hat Jesse. Even though Langenberg/ Beaver has been around over 100 years…. I don’t too often see examples of theirs stuff say pre 1950s. That is a great find sir.

Hey thank you my friend! I must agree- theres a lot of 50s & onward floating around out there with Lagenberg brands. I was surprised to find this hat. Never really seen any Thoroughbreds of this age in any catalogs or on here for that matter. Im excited. Appreciate it!

 

[MikeinRome]

I'd forgotten about this thread -- and I even posted to it not long ago. Thanks for asking about it Mike and pointing us back to it Bama and Jack.

Thought I'd better archive a couple here.

Western from Montgomery Ward (late 1920s). The "Round Up" model. 7-1/2" crown, 5" brim. It doesn't fit me (like advertised), but does fit my wife. Although she is a bit intimidated by it.

A screen printed Pin-Up?

The girl whose photo is on the liner of your hat looks to me like the same girl whose photo appears promoting a hat in White and Davis catalog #32, of 1928 I think, which has hats made for that company by Stetson. See attached photo. Don't know if she was a famous movie star such as Mary Pickford or what.

 

[Thundercolt]

Pre-Stetson made around 1856, from the Arabia Steamboat Museum.

 

[Thundercolt]