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dannyk

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Their midweight cow looks so good to me and it's available in every color imaginable...I wouldn't even be interested in the pony skin myself...
Unless I see a full jacket in action and it blew me away. I would go cow or even their goat since it’s their speciality and what Ross Langlitz believed to be the best mc leather. Horse is great and it’s traditional and the main hide of the generation of jackets we all adore and I get it. We’ve all fallen under the horse spell. But I’ve done horse. Not opposed to getting anymore but I want a shearling I want a goat, I want more steer. More colors.
 

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Since some of us wanted to know thickness, I contacted Langlitz.

The horse is 3 oz or slightly thicker and is an extra $1200 charge so I will be sticking with good old medium weight steer hide.
 
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Their midweight cow looks so good to me and it's available in every color imaginable...I wouldn't even be interested in the pony skin myself...

The cowhide in black and solid brown is tanned in New York CXL (and feels it). The colored leather, is more supple, and is tanned in California. I stand by my estimate of 3.75 for the med. weight jacket I received- of course each batch can vary, ala most of our experiences with Aero, Lost World's etc. In addition, Langlitz seems very deliberate in choosing hides for each and every jacket to meet their high standards and consistency.
 

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Mine will be a ba***rd child of a Sidewinder and a straight zip Cascade with its bi-swing back, but with a collar.

Unsure if I want padding or not yet. This will be my dedicated motorcycle jacket so I am leaning toward padding.

I love the padding. On both my jackets. You can pay a nominal extra charge for extra foam in the padding if desired; and I did.
 

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Mine will be a ba***rd child of a Sidewinder and a straight zip Cascade with its bi-swing back, but with a collar.

Unsure if I want padding or not yet. This will be my dedicated motorcycle jacket so I am leaning toward padding.


Also forgot to mention. If you go with the extra foam for the padding it will make bending arms very challenging at first. I was tempted to forego the extra padding at the elbows for the second but more supple dark brown cowhide but decided to man up again- LOL The regular medium cowhide cxl with extra padding at the elbows was a definite challenge but I ended up doing bicep curls with dumbbells while wearing jacket- job of softening up almost complete. ;)
 

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That's pure speculation. I'd like to hear from Langlitz what they're actually using.
And that's 3.75 approx. in describing my medium weight cowhide from Langlitz not the horse. I am with most on the issue- up charge not worth it. As I learned from Aero- I like steer better in many respects. Break in and wear look to be spectacular with Aero thick steer.
 
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Also forgot to mention. If you go with the extra foam for the padding it will make bending arms very challenging at first. I was tempted to forego the extra padding at the elbows for the second but more supple dark brown cowhide but decided to man up again- LOL The regular medium cowhide cxl with extra padding at the elbows was a definite challenge but I ended up doing bicep curls with dumbbells while wearing jacket- job of softening up almost complete. ;)
I noticed when I bend my arms in the LW it's a rather sharp sensation at the elbow. I may have to employ your technique!
 

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The cowhide in black and solid brown is tanned in New York CXL (and feels it). The colored leather, is more supple, and is tanned in California. I stand by my estimate of 3.75 for the med. weight jacket I received- of course each batch can vary, ala most of our experiences with Aero, Lost World's etc. In addition, Langlitz seems very deliberate in choosing hides for each and every jacket to meet their high standards and consistency.
"Tanned in New York" CXL? What?

Chromexcel (abbreviated CXL) is a Horween trademark. Horween is in Chicago, not New York. Unless I'm mistaken? Do they have an east coast operation?
 
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"Tanned in New York" CXL? What?

Chromexcel (abbreviated CXL) is a Horween trademark. Horween is in Chicago, not New York. Unless I'm mistaken? Do they have an east coast operation?
Horween CXL (to my knowledge) is produced only in Chicago, a mere 2 miles from my front door!
 

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"Tanned in New York" CXL? What?

Chromexcel (abbreviated CXL) is a Horween trademark. Horween is in Chicago, not New York. Unless I'm mistaken? Do they have an east coast operation?

I am pretty sure Langlitz said New York for their regular brown and black. Chrome tanned for sure. And the colored leather was definitely from California.
 

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Straight from Langlitz email response:
Our leathers are chrome tanned in New York. The hides originate from the dairy and beef industry, and meat-goats. I think mostly from the mid-west region of The States.

Our colored cowhide is out of California actually. Same tanning I believe as the other stuff. But the colored hides are far suppler than the standard black and brown, and they lack the hard finish the black and brown get, so I’m not sure how it is in the rain. Probably just fine with the proper applications of our leather dressing.
 

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I stand corrected gentlemen. Chrome Tanned not CXL.
Maybe same tannery as Lost World's ?!
Lost Worlds claim to own their own tannery, I thought I read somewhere on their website.

CXL is chrome tanned, and then vegetable retanned. But there are plenty of tanners who do chrome tanned and vegetable tanned.
 

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Lost Worlds claim to own their own tannery, I thought I read somewhere on their website.

CXL is chrome tanned, and then vegetable retanned. But there are plenty of tanners who do chrome tanned and vegetable tanned.

I had no idea........
CXL is chrome then veggie tanned? Never knew
 

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I had no idea........
CXL is chrome then veggie tanned? Never knew

https://www.horween.com/articles

CHROMEXCEL
Chromexcel is the original pull-up leather; using time honored techniques and formulas that were developed nearly 100 years ago. Chromexcel is still produced in the United States using a bark retannage from a proprietary recipe, and then genuine hot stuffed with our secret blend of natural oils and greases.

Further reading: https://www.horween.com/blog/2010/03/23/chromexcel®-2?rq=chromexcel
 

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Since some of us wanted to know thickness, I contacted Langlitz.

The horse is 3 oz or slightly thicker and is an extra $1200 charge so I will be sticking with good old medium weight steer hide.

+$1200 :( yeah I'd pass on that too. Their cow is great stuff. If they could do it for, say +$100-200 premium, I'd be willing to do it, but that's almost 2x. Can't see it being worth it.
 

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