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Happy St.Paddy's Day my friends...

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Have a good Saint Patrick's Day, everyone. I already enjoyed my brisket dinner. ;)

I noticed a lot of students on campus were actually wearing green for the day too. I wore a red short-sleeved shirt (collared), with greenish-grey corduroy pants, and my Akubra Federation. Not sure if I went green enough...
 

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KittyT said:
Danny Boy definitely needs to go away. Written by an Englishman who never set foot in Ireland? Definitely NOT the song to represent the Irish :)

It was adopted some years back as an anthem for the Six Counties of Northern Ireland.... I guess as an inoffensive number that isn't rightly identifiable as pertaining to one side or the other...
 

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Edward said:
Ah, but he was a Celt - a very different breed to your modern English. The only real Englishman to have been canonised by the Irish was Jackie Charlton... ;)
This is why I put inverted commas round Englishman. The people we think of as 'Celts' ranged from modern Ireland to Switzerland and beyond. To the Greeks anyonone to the north was keltoi, or barbarian. Let's just say he was from the eastern British Isles...

There are many residual 'Celtic' place names in England. It's hard to say who is and isn't something without descending into chauvinism.

Identity's up for grabs and always has been.
 

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Creeping Past said:
This is why I put inverted commas round Englishman. The people we think of as 'Celts' ranged from modern Ireland to Switzerland and beyond. To the Greeks anyonone to the north was keltoi, or barbarian. Let's just say he was from the eastern British Isles...

There are many residual 'Celtic' place names in England. It's hard to say who is and isn't something without descending into chauvinism.

Identity's up for grabs and always has been.

Surely not since they've mapped the genome. Lots of time, trouble and funds to identifiy an persons background at this point, but I think we are getting closer and closer to finding out exactly who we are.
And won't THAT be a fun time!:eek:
 

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Miss Crisplock said:
Surely not since they've mapped the genome. Lots of time, trouble and funds to identifiy an persons background at this point, but I think we are getting closer and closer to finding out exactly who we are.
And won't THAT be a fun time!:eek:

Oh, even more up for grabs so if that's to be more widespread, I think.

Maybe it'll encourage a return of individualism in the moral sense, rather than the lifestyle sense, since we'll all have our own distinguishable mixes of whatever they measure.

I'm keen to see the development of research into DNA that shows that it can alter during a person's lifetime, meaning that our personal experiences can in part shape our DNA make-up.
 

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Creeping Past said:
This is why I put inverted commas round Englishman. The people we think of as 'Celts' ranged from modern Ireland to Switzerland and beyond. To the Greeks anyonone to the north was keltoi, or barbarian. Let's just say he was from the eastern British Isles...

There are many residual 'Celtic' place names in England. It's hard to say who is and isn't something without descending into chauvinism.

Identity's up for grabs and always has been.

That's the truth; the Celts were pushed aross Europe by the Romans, eventually settling in the Celtic fringes of the modern British Isles.... In particulr in Ireland, where dring the Dark Ages, we saved civilisation. ;)
 

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Big_e said:
I was pinched.:)

Same here! I was wearing some almost dark-green, grey cordury pants, and when I got come from my classes, my siblings then proceeded to pinch me. I tried to argue that it looked somewhat green under certain lighting, but they insisted upon it being grey. :p
 

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Edward said:
That's the truth; the Celts were pushed aross Europe by the Romans, eventually settling in the Celtic fringes of the modern British Isles.... In particulr in Ireland, where dring the Dark Ages, we saved civilisation. ;)

First part: not true. The Celtic fringe idea is a lovely myth of the twilight of gentler ways. The Romans made trade agreements with all the 'Celts' they encountered throughout Europe, by what is euphemistically termed 'regime change' in the present day, by sheer force of arms and by plain pragmatism of all parties, all of which surely led to a degree of 'Celtic flight'. But if the Romans had pushed all the 'Celts' to the fringes, as popular Celticist imagination has it, they'd have had to do all the wealth-making work themselves rather than enslave and otherwise force the locals to do it. The whole point of the Roman Empire was that it ran on incorporation and war, not on the replacement of local populations with Romans. The Romans were everywhere because everywhere was Rome.

But you know that. I'm taking things literally today. :eusa_doh: :rolleyes:

The latter part is true, though, if prosyletizing is regarded as the basis of civilisation. The British (c.18th century to the present) certainly thought it was. ;)
 

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