Going Atomic With Dalton

[Frunobulax]

I may be missing something but i think they misspelled Dalton too.
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I don't even see where it says Dalton.

Or is that what you're pointing out?

Here is a Dalton His Excellency. Now in my possession.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/going-atomic-with-dalton.57089/post-2934191

 

[Crown Royal]

I may be missing something but i think they misspelled Dalton too.
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I think what I was trying to convey was that recent research has "His Excellency" hats as being made by Dalton but mine might be an exception given what I pointed out. If that's true, then the logical next question is who produced these hats?

 

[Crown Royal]

I don't even see where it says Dalton.

Or is that what you're pointing out?

Here is a Dalton His Excellency. Now in my possession.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/going-atomic-with-dalton.57089/post-2934191

Indeed, I believe it was TheLostCowboy that determined his "His Excellency" was made by Dalton, which seems to be accurate given what I have seen but mine might be an exception.

 

[The Lost Cowboy]

Indeed, I believe it was TheLastCowboy that determined his "His Excellency" was made by Dalton, which seems to be accurate given what I have seen but mine might be an exception.

Certainly interesting to see an exception. Actually, my liner does not have an Eagle nor does it say “Dalton” anywhere on the inside at all but in every other way it seems identical to the ones labeled as Dalton. Yours does appear to be newer so maybe someone else made them for a while or maybe mine was not made by Dalton at all.

Another hat mystery to be sorted by the hat angels of the world to come? At least, that’s the only way I’ve found to expect answers to many of the hat riddles.

My “His Excellency” is one of my favorite hats, btw.

 

[Crown Royal]

Certainly interesting to see an exception. Actually, my liner does not have an Eagle nor does it say “Dalton” anywhere on the inside at all but in every other way it seems identical to the ones labeled as Dalton. Yours does appear to be newer so maybe someone else made them for a while or maybe mine was not made by Dalton at all.

Another hat mystery to be sorted by the hat angels of the world to come? At least, that’s the only way I’ve found to expect answers to many of the hat riddles.

My “His Excellency” is one of my favorite hats, btw.

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Its hard for me to tell from that last photo but I think your hat has a DH in the crest above "His Excellency", no?

 

[The Lost Cowboy]

Its hard for me to tell from that last photo but I think your hat has a DH in the crest above "His Excellency", no?

Good eye - I was also looking at that but I honestly couldn’t make out the second letter. But now that you say it, I believe it is “DH”.

Down Home? Don’t Hybernate? “Dalton Hats” might be a safe bet, but I am wrong so often these days that I’m not gonna make it.

 

[Frunobulax]

Indeed, I believe it was TheLostCowboy that determined his "His Excellency" was made by Dalton, which seems to be accurate given what I have seen but mine might be an exception.

In the case of the one I posted, no determination is needed. It's a labelled Dalton through and through.

Certainly interesting to see an exception. Actually, my liner does not have an Eagle nor does it say “Dalton” anywhere on the inside at all but in every other way it seems identical to the ones labeled as Dalton. Yours does appear to be newer so maybe someone else made them for a while or maybe mine was not made by Dalton at all.

Another hat mystery to be sorted by the hat angels of the world to come? At least, that’s the only way I’ve found to expect answers to many of the hat riddles.

My “His Excellency” is one of my favorite hats, btw.

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What's on the label behind the sweat, if there is one?

 

[Frunobulax]

As it's reported the Dalton Hat Company was sold in 1953, those made after that date were likely made with the rights to the name only. The trail goes cold after 1953, unfortunately.

The design of CR's hat screams 60s to me, so it is most likely a Dalton in name only. The logos certainly seem Dalton-ish.

Additionally, I have a few hats with different markings that are also labelled "made by Dalton." I believe all of them to be pre-1953. In fact, I believe all of them are.

 

[Crown Royal]

In the case of the one I posted, no determination is needed. It's a labelled Dalton through and through.



What's on the label behind the sweat, if there is one?

Here you go, the label under the sweatband states it was produced by Men's Hats ... as nebo posted years ago in this thread, "there is a mention in the April 17th, 1952 Herald Statesman from Yonkers that Harry Siegelbaum sold the company to "Men's Hats" of Baltimore, MD." It seems like I may have the first example in this thread of a post-Dalton Men's Hats "His Excellency" lid.

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

I don't even see where it says Dalton.

Or is that what you're pointing out?

Here is a Dalton His Excellency. Now in my possession.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/going-atomic-with-dalton.57089/post-2934191

Yeah, my way of saying that.
I now see the error of my ways. Did not see that with the other hat.
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[AbbaDatDeHat]

I think what I was trying to convey was that recent research has "His Excellency" hats as being made by Dalton but mine might be an exception given what I pointed out. If that's true, then the logical next question is who produced these hats?

I see that now.
No idea.
I do know Fruno is the King of Dalton tho.
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[Crown Royal]

I see that now.
No idea.
I do know Fruno is the King of Dalton tho.
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I think I cracked the mystery ... my hat was produced by Men's Hat, Inc after they bought Dalton in 1952 per nebo's post in this thread several years ago.

 

[Frunobulax]

I see that now.
No idea.
I do know Fruno is the King of Dalton tho.
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"Duke."

Stop trying to promote me.

 

[Crown Royal]

Dalton Night Club homburg.
His Excellency World Premier Hat Premier Quality in size 7 1/4.

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Your Dalton has an "E" in the eagle's chest. My Men's Hats "His Excellency" also has it but it seems that the non-His Excellency hats that have an eagle have a "D" instead.

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

"Duke."

Stop trying to promote me.

Thought you were The Duke of Dayton and the King of Dalton.
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[Crown Royal]

Some more background information on Men's Hats, Inc. below as posted by Neophyte in the AAQGAA thread ...

"M.S. Levy and Sons merged with the New England Panama Hat Company and Brigham Hopkins Co. in 1939, operating under the name of Men's Hats, Inc.. The business was prominent in both the straw and felt hat market.

The Levy's retired from the hat industry in 1959, and in 1964, Men's Hats, Inc. closed its doors permanently."

 

[Frunobulax]

Thought you were The Duke of Dayton and the King of Dalton.
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The Fruno of Funkytown?

 

[The Lost Cowboy]

What's on the label behind the sweat, if there is one?

You mean this reorder tag? Here’s the size tag as well … if I remember right from our discussion last year, these are the same as Dalton used. Is that right?

 

[Frunobulax]

Your Dalton has an "E" in the eagle's chest. My Men's Hats "His Excellency" also has it but it seems that the non-His Excellency hats that have an eagle have a "D" instead.

The Dalton logo has a D, however.

 

[Frunobulax]

You mean this reorder tag? Here’s the size tag as well … if I remember right from our discussion last year, these are the same as Dalton used. Is that right?
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I think I have a couple different types of size tag. I was interested if the reorder tag was one with the eagle and whatnot.