Crown height ?

[indycop]

fftopic:
And ..... will you show these in Memphis?

Uh sure, if you can dig them out of the truck!lol

 

[indycop]

Dang those PB's look good on you two. Here is my lowriderlol5" at the front

See yer not alone deadpickle! My big noggin makes my brim look shorter though...

 

[rrog]

Deadpickle and IndyCop, those are both good looking hats, as is yours, handlebar bart.

No. There are some general rules about skinny guys not wearing hats that are way too tall, and fat guys not wearing the stingiest of brims.

That cracks me up. So, um, being one of the latter guys, rather than one of the former guys, just where might I find these rules?


Rick

 

[Lefty]

Like I said, take it with a grain of salt.

 

[indycop]

So, um, being one of the latter guys, rather than one of the former guys, just where might I find these rules?
Rick

I found that rule when I looked in the mirror!:eusa_doh: I would love to be able to wear a 2 inch brim....

 

[rrog]

Would someone please pass the salt?


Rick

 

[BobC]

Welcome to the lounge, DP. I thought I'd throw in my two cents too. My first tall open crown hat was an Akubra Fed Deluxe IV, and I thought it looked too tall at first too. Since then I've acquired one of Johnnyphi's Stetsons (see my avatar) with an even taller open crown. The beauty of these tall crowns is that you can crease them with a nice, deep crease and still have a nice tall straight bashed hat. Enjoy your hat...you look good in it. Be careful though: the hat bug bites hard. lol lol lol

 

[FATS88]

CAT IN THE HAT?

DP,

Your questions and concerns hit home.
I made a special trip to Fort Worth to make sure
just how tall of a crown I could getaway with wearing.
Also to have the Maestro (Joe Sr.) take and file my
measurements for future orders.
Indycop, I'm jealous, almost greeneyed,
that you can look that COOL! in the "Raider"
I think Joe has the height on them at 5"-5 1/2"
at the front.
I tried one on in the store, and I looked like a
stove and stovepipe.
As the loungers have already mentioned;
you'll go through a period of getting used to your hat(s)
and I've also found that watching old movies helped me
adjust to the very idea of wearing any dress hat,
tall or low crowned.
I'm a short man 5'6" but I believe my wide shoulders,
(I wear a 44 suit coat) allow me to wear a larger
dimensioned dress hat, or maybe I just don't care,
just as long as I look like I'm extra in a nostalgic film
when I'm wearing an entire ensemble;
overcoat, gloves, scarf and a art deco tin of C.Howard's violets
yep' that'll do it.
The first time I did this I felt as though I was surrounded
by very masculine friends...untouchable.
I decided to start dressing this way to silently protest against
TODAY's sameness, and the hats now help to keep my comb over
in place
You look great in your hat, although your original post was some weeks
ago, I decided to reply because the Fall/Winter months are close, and you'll really be able to cut loose, don't forget to practice proper hat etiquette.
Who cares if someone laughs at your hat?
Have you checked out the clothing styles of most of the big retailers?
So,who's got room to laugh?? Just remember;
there are very few Men today that are Man enough even to wear a
dress hat.
If most of the MEN in my church didn't wear hats, maybe I wouldn't
either.


Ands that's my two DENTS worth
Cheers!
Fats

 

[charlie farley]

Welcome to the lounge, DP. I thought I'd throw in my two cents too. My first tall open crown hat was an Akubra Fed Deluxe IV, and I thought it looked too tall at first too. Since then I've acquired one of Johnnyphi's Stetsons (see my avatar) with an even taller open crown. The beauty of these tall crowns is that you can crease them with a nice, deep crease and still have a nice tall straight bashed hat. Enjoy your hat...you look good in it. Be careful though: the hat bug bites hard. lol lol lol

fftopic: I love the colour of that hat, BobC what is it called?

When I got my (so far one and only) hat, I too thought it was tall enough but now after watching old movies it seems too short already and I've not had it long.I think the new Stetson nostalgia will satisfy me 'till I get round to aquiring a custom made hat.

 

[r00tuk]

Greetings fellow hatters!

Apologies if this has been covered in another thread - which I obviously failed locate - but I am trying to find out if there is a recommended crown height in relation to person height, face type or occasion? What is the generally accepted as too high or low, or is it a matter of getting used to it over time? Is there a measurement range for low, medium and high category crowns?

I am wearing my Fed IV with a tear drop bash with a front crown height of 10cm (4 inches) and I am 6ft tall. I changed it to a centre crease but could not get the crown lower than 12.5 cm so went back to the tear drop. Anymore than 10cm, I think it begins to look and feel like too much hat, but that could just be me being relatively new to wearing them.

I have seen the www.felthats.com - Choosing Hat Style page but does not provide specific measurements ranges for crowns.

Thanks in advance for your opinions.

 

[The Wiser Hatter]

http://www.millerhats.com/hatcare_index/hatfaces.html

Is this the page you looked at? This page shows how to pick a style based on facial shape.

 

[gtdean48]

The symmetry of your facial shape below the brim should be in proportion to what is going on above the brim according to 1 article I've read. The distance to your jawline & chin should be balanced by the crown height. Some prefer taller crowns but how you think it looks in the mirror is the key, JMHO....

 

[scottyrocks]

You may want to experiment over time with this hat.

When I got my first Fed IV, I creased it to be about as tall as possible. Over time, I decided that it was too tall and lowered it a touch. The nice thing about these hats is that they can be recreased as many times as desired.

Until you are pretty sure what you want, dont put sharp creases into it, though, because those are more difficult to get completely out than shallower, less sharp creases.

 

[r00tuk]

The symmetry of your facial shape below the brim should be in proportion to what is going on above the brim according to 1 article I've read. The distance to your jawline & chin should be balanced by the crown height. Some prefer taller crowns but how you think it looks in the mirror is the key, JMHO....

Thanks! That explanation does help ... err; then I thought hang-on! Did you mean measure the jawline to chin, ie. from below the ear to the centre of the chin, or was it a vertical measurement from chin to where the brim lines up around the eye brows?

For my wife and myself, the 10cm crown height suites me but we don't see anybody else wearing boxy fedora/trilby crowns where I live: only tapered ones with stingy brims. If I measure as described above, then I could go for a centre crease which results in a taller crown. There is probably an element of conservatism on my part that makes me look in the mirror and think it does not suite, but given some time to get used to it would probably do the trick.

 

[tonyb]

Discussions of aesthetics often morph into nature v. nurture debates -- do we like these particular proportions because they appeal to something innately human, or do they appeal to us because we've grown accustomed to them and have therefore deemed them "right"? -- debates which have yet to be satisfactorily resolved. Not that it really matters, though. As gtdean48 observed, what you see in the mirror is what counts. Many a fellow here tells of once believing he'd never wear a hat with a brim under (or over) 2 1/2 inches, say, or a crown shorter (or taller) than X number of inches, but then he found a hat at a vintage expo that violated one or the other or both of those criteria and he grew accustomed to the look of it atop his head and now it's his most-worn hat.

 

[DRB]

I once read that the crown height of your hat should be the same as the distance from your chin to your eyes.

 

[danofarlington]

Thanks! That explanation does help ... err; then I thought hang-on! Did you mean measure the jawline to chin, ie. from below the ear to the centre of the chin, or was it a vertical measurement from chin to where the brim lines up around the eye brows?

For my wife and myself, the 10cm crown height suites me but we don't see anybody else wearing boxy fedora/trilby crowns where I live: only tapered ones with stingy brims. If I measure as described above, then I could go for a centre crease which results in a taller crown. There is probably an element of conservatism on my part that makes me look in the mirror and think it does not suite, but given some time to get used to it would probably do the trick.

To get used to the look of high-crowned hats, you might peruse the website or Google "Stetson" anything on The Fedora Lounge, to see how they look. The vintage Stetson Open Road model hat, the kind most commonly seen here, is a high-crowned hat. The Akubra Campdraft is the same. Seeing them worn by a number of different people can help you decide whether it's for you or not. It think high crowns can work on a majority of men, but it's true you have to get used to them.

 

[fmw]

Don't get all tangled up in this stuff. Crown height is simply a matter of personal preference. There is no right or wrong. Just different looks. Personally, I prefer low crowns. I'm in a minority. Nevertheless, I'm going to continue to prefer low crowns.

Having said that, in my avatar you can see me wearing my favorite hat which has a high straight sided crown. Go figure. Like I said, there is no right or wrong.

 

[r00tuk]

Thanks for the feedback everyone which has all been useful. I reckon I could get away with a slightly taller crown without me looking odd to someone in the street. Back to the kettle and a bit of re-bashing!

 

[gtdean48]

Will add this since I have a math degree = appealing looks have a numerical relationship & a symmetry to them. Look up the Golden Ratio = phi.
Balance is initially pleasing so above the brim/below the brim balancing is probably based on the concept. That is what a lot of the facial shape stuff is about as well.
Your facial shape impacts the height of the crown, the degree of the pinch, etc.