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[RickP]

Excellant... I kinda figured something like that.... Would I be correct in assuming that a 59cm "here" is the same as a 59 "there"?

 

[belfastboy]

Excellant... I kinda figured something like that.... Would I be correct in assuming that a 59cm "here" is the same as a 59 "there"?

A safe assumption.

 

[rogueclimber]

A safe assumption

True, but of course I have 58s that are too big, too small, and just right...

 

[RickP]

True, but of course I have 58s that are too big, too small, and just right...

Thats why I searched for a good "hat attitude adjuster"... I can persuade the them into fitting as needed

 

[belfastboy]

True, but of course I have 58s that are too big, too small, and just right...

What a hat manufacturer puts on the label and the actual measurement are sometimes at odds. But here on earth, a 59cm measure is always a 59cm measure.....unless using a Chinese tape measure.

 

[belfastboy]

Thats why I searched for a good "hat attitude adjuster"... I can persuade the them into fitting as needed


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I do want one of those just to sit on my bench in my shop. That and a vintage conformateur.....just because.

 

[RickP]

I do want one of those just to sit on my bench in my shop. That and a vintage conformateur.....just because.

Thats why I got mine... but I found that I DO actually use it all the time... Grab a hat I havent worn for a while and give it a little tickle before I head out the door

 

[Zombie_61]

Over the past couple of years Ive kinda noticed in my unscientific investigations that American Hat sizing in Stetson, Champ, Towncraft, Knox etc are slightly different than foreign made hats. ( A 7-1/4/ 58 Stetson fits me the same way that a 59 Akubra does. Not having a Borsalino around to compare leaves a knowledge void on the matter but I did look at an older-ish english made hat marked 58 and it was pretty snug. Question is... do the Americans use a slightly different standard than the rest of the world... Are out heads just bigger ? lol

I think the real problem is simply that most Americans don't know how to measure their own heads accurately.

Example--my best male friend is a guy I've known for 50 years. His hair started thinning a year or two before we graduated high school, and he chose to wear flat caps and ball caps. Once I started wearing hats--Fedoras and such--he decided he'd like to look into getting a proper hat for himself, so I told him the first step was to measure his head to determine his size. He had a Tailor's Tape handy, so I gave him the basic instructions for how to measure his own head, and the first thing he did was to wrap it around his head far too tight and in the wrong place. After a little fine tuning we finally got a good measurement, and...well, he's still wearing flat and ball caps.

 

[RickP]

I think the real problem is simply that most Americans don't know how to measure their own heads accurately.

Example--my best male friend is a guy I've known for 50 years. His hair started thinning a year or two before we graduated high school, and he chose to wear flat caps and ball caps. Once I started wearing hats--Fedoras and such--he decided he'd like to look into getting a proper hat for himself, so I told him the first step was to measure his head to determine his size. He had a Tailor's Tape handy, so I gave him the basic instructions for how to measure his own head, and the first thing he did was to wrap it around his head far too tight and in the wrong place. After a little fine tuning we finally got a good measurement, and...well, he's still wearing flat and ball caps.

Im a firm beliver in "if in doubt buy big and stuff the sweatband"

 

[Zombie_61]

Im a firm beliver in "if in doubt buy big and stuff the sweatband"

I've done that with a few hats, but ultimately it distorts the felt, makes them less comfortable, and I'm constantly having to put the "stuffing" back behind the sweatband.

 

[belfastboy]

I think the real problem is simply that most Americans don't know how to measure their own heads accurately.

Example--my best male friend is a guy I've known for 50 years. His hair started thinning a year or two before we graduated high school, and he chose to wear flat caps and ball caps. Once I started wearing hats--Fedoras and such--he decided he'd like to look into getting a proper hat for himself, so I told him the first step was to measure his head to determine his size. He had a Tailor's Tape handy, so I gave him the basic instructions for how to measure his own head, and the first thing he did was to wrap it around his head far too tight and in the wrong place. After a little fine tuning we finally got a good measurement, and...well, he's still wearing flat and ball caps.

That is my great concern when dealing with a client on line. I use the Flex Curve to check the shape of the head and thot process gives me a double check. I have caught customers out a few times and asked them to remeasure as their tape measurement does not match the diagram/dimensions from the Flex Curve. It is not a cure all as the client can screw up both ends of the procedure but thankfully have not have that happened........yet!

 

[dwlovell]

hi! I am new to the Fedora Lounge, I am happy to have found this place! I inherited 2 hats from my grandfather, one was easy to find info on, it is a Stetson, but this one I am having issues trying to find out more, mainly the time frame/date it was made. Any info would be appreciated. I will be selling them as sadly they are not my size. Thank you for any help!

 

[Blare]

hi! I am new to the Fedora Lounge, I am happy to have found this place! I inherited 2 hats from my grandfather, one was easy to find info on, it is a Stetson, but this one I am having issues trying to find out more, mainly the time frame/date it was made. Any info would be appreciated. I will be selling them as sadly they are not my size. Thank you for any help!

Welcome to the lounge. Very nice Borsalino. Your grandfather had good taste. Borsalino is one of the most prolific Italian hat makers of the last century… and still made today.

Your hat does appear to have some age to it. Might be able to narrow down for you if we could see any tags behind the sweatband.

Check out the Borsalino Brotherhood

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/the-borsalino-brotherhood.13133/page-466

 

[hatsRme]

hi! I am new to the Fedora Lounge, I am happy to have found this place! I inherited 2 hats from my grandfather, one was easy to find info on, it is a Stetson, but this one I am having issues trying to find out more, mainly the time frame/date it was made. Any info would be appreciated. I will be selling them as sadly they are not my size. Thank you for any help!

How far off your size are they? There are adjustments that can be done, especially if these lids have family provenance. Too big? Small?

 

[Jimmy__patt]

Hey, just picked up this Knox Twenty Five long haired beaver. Could anyone tell me what decade it is from please? Thank you!

 

[Blare]

Hey, just picked up this Knox Twenty Five long haired beaver. Could anyone tell me what decade it is from please? Thank you!

That is a real beauty. First impression…. I would think 1950s. If we could see tags behind the sweatband we can get a better idea.

 

[TheOldFashioned]

Hey, just picked up this Knox Twenty Five long haired beaver. Could anyone tell me what decade it is from please? Thank you!

That's a sharp looking hat! I wouldn't go so far as to call it beaver but at the Twenty Five level it's probably a blend. I would estimate it's from the later 40s or early 50s, but a picture of the manufacturing tag under the sweatband would be the best way to confirm.

 

[Jimmy__patt]

That's a sharp looking hat! I wouldn't go so far as to call it beaver but at the Twenty Five level it's probably a blend. I would estimate it's from the later 40s or early 50s, but a picture of the manufacturing tag under the sweatband would be the best way to confirm.

 

[TheOldFashioned]

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Excellent, thank you. The first picture is probably from when the hat was refurbished. The second is the original manufacturing tag. That format was used in the 40s. Again, a wonderful hat!

 

[Jimmy__patt]

That's a sharp looking hat! I wouldn't go so far as to call it beaver but at the Twenty Five level it's probably a blend. I would estimate it's from the later 40s or early 50s, but a picture of the manufacturing tag under the sweatband would be the best way to confirm.

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Excellent, thank you. The first picture is probably from when the hat was refurbished. The second is the original manufacturing tag. That format was used in the 40s. Again, a wonderful hat!

Thanks, I feel like it looks too big for my head?