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  1. Undertow

    Staged TV

    Quite right, sir. And I don't think we can necessarily fault them for this. Many forms of entertainment, in any given era, have done nothing but appeal to the masses. Shakespeare, for instance, had a vested interest in presenting works that at least appealed to the masses. Granted, I think...
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    Myths of the Golden Era -- Exploded!

    It's incorrect to term it a "pseudo-culture". When the Seattle music scene exploded, and everyone was out buying pre-torn jeans and plaid shirts, it was still a culture, albeit a prefabricated one. That is, unless you would assert that culture must be organic in nature - in which case...
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    A Cultural Wrinkle

    I can't recall the name of the technology used to make a 100% cotton shirt "non-wrinkle" right off the top of my head, but it has to do with the length of cotton fibers, the pre-cut treatment of the fabric, etc. If I'm purchasing a new shirt, I don't want anything to do with the wrinkle free...
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    Today's Pinup Fashion a Sly Wink to the Past - New York Times

    Yes, Me too! :eusa_clap
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    Staged TV

    I enjoy watching the scuz on COPS every once in a while when my dad and I are taking a break from cribbage. I guess you could call that a reality show. Regarding the other stuff we call "reality" television, it's just another type of scripted programming made cheap and sold for a few bucks...
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    Does vintage make you look.... *older*?

    Oh lord, I used to get this all the time when I worked in Wine&Spirits. There would be the typical college boy who produced an obviously bogus "donor card" that he'd spent a hundred bucks on, and he'd get mighty idignant when we'd refuse him. Then he'd get REALLY mad when we'd take the card...
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    Does your vintage wardrobe have to match your vintage house?

    I think two of Lizzie's points are quite important. 1. Purchase a structure you feel is sound and meets your requirements in relation to a new home. Don't purchase based on a build date. 2. Consider that older homes get "smaller and smaller" relative to your possessions. A build date...
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    The general decline in standards today

    My original post was very much in this vein - that facts are facts, not dem/repub bickering. Alas, PSG is correct - it's easy to skirt the edges of acceptable and unacceptable on the Lounge. I would just as soon retract something than have a thread shut down. I'm not going to leave it to the...
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    Excessive posting? ... Interesting.....

    So this week has been cool, cloudy - even a little rainy today. Awesome... But this weekend, aka Saturday/Sunday, aka WHEN MY LADY AND I MOVE INTO OUR NEW PLACE... Yeah, in the 100's. No problem. We got this. Oh, did I mention our new place doesn't have air conditioning? Tuesday, the...
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    Today's Pinup Fashion a Sly Wink to the Past - New York Times

    And as much as I'm sure certain elements like to remind us that the Lounge is only a small sub-group of an already small subculture, change starts with small groups just like this. It's not always pleasant, but I've learned an awful lot about myself and my society through some of these hack...
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    Mike makes the Times!

    Awesome! Way to go, Count Moloch! ;)
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    The general decline in standards today

    X Edited Let's agree to disagree on this one, SoA. (Thanks for the heads up, PSG!) ;)
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    Today's Pinup Fashion a Sly Wink to the Past - New York Times

    Let me play devil's advocate and ask you, "When does moral relativism go too far?" I am a staunch freedom of speech supporter. I've had posts removed on this board because I've posted examples like the man in Florida selling books on how paedophiles should operate to avoid detection and...
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    mens wearhouse

    This has been my experience, too. I've started making it a habit to bring a calculator and leave it in the car. I mentally note the prices they're offering from one sale to another. I go out to my car and give myself a moment to think (without their BS pressure moves), do some math and go back...
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    Today's Pinup Fashion a Sly Wink to the Past - New York Times

    Grr, those cheeks of yours! Evil cheeks! Cheeky cheeks! (Don't worry Flicka, many of us have done things in the presence of a camera that we wouldn't like to discuss in front of our grandparents, much less the Lounge!)
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    Do you think there could be a second Great Depression?

    Right! And at least the burglar might just cook you dinner, organize your laundry and clean your floors!
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    Do you think there could be a second Great Depression?

    I think we, as a Western population including the Euro and UK, are beginning to see the ever-present disconnect between politics, economy and bankers. The disconnect has always been there by nature, but politics and economy necessarily work with the banking industry, and thus the mixing. In...
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    Unusually Smart-Looking Men

    Yes, I think so. The tuxedo is, and had always been, a casual extension of the white tie affair. After the 20's and into the 30's, when black tie came into its own as an acceptable form of dress, I think it was still reserved for the upper echelon who already observed white tie. The average...
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    Today's Pinup Fashion a Sly Wink to the Past - New York Times

    I'm not sure anyone is judging individuals, but there are too many posts to reread. I think the discussion was (at one point or another) focused on the counter-productive nature of a sub-cultural move to become sex bait for men, willingly. Or in other words, I think there's been more debate...
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    Excessive posting? ... Interesting.....

    I love that stuff. I have really big feet, so my mom used to fret about me mowing the lawn when I was a kid. :eusa_doh: My grandpa would stand outside with his neighbor and make me stand there with them. He'd berate me about how he worked on a farm when he was my age, and by god they...

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