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  1. thekiyote

    GoodWear Leather - 1939 Werber A-2 (new)

    To start off with, I'm describing a subjective opinion. You can agree with my line of thinking, or not. It's cool either way, since there's no way to "prove" someone's opinion. Both artists and craftsmen sit on a spectrum of making money off of a product and producing a high quality product...
  2. thekiyote

    GoodWear Leather - 1939 Werber A-2 (new)

    To be honest, I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything. I understood the argument that Big J was trying to make perfectly fine, and think he's completely justified for that opinion. Normally I'd just let it go since it's clear what he meant, and it doesn't make him wrong, but I just...
  3. thekiyote

    GoodWear Leather - 1939 Werber A-2 (new)

    You don't like GW's waiting list, and that you wouldn't get a jacket from them because of it. That's fair. But you're still straw manning Jon.
  4. thekiyote

    GoodWear Leather - 1939 Werber A-2 (new)

    I'm not saying that you should be happy with the waiting list, but technically, all that Jon said was that the quality of Goodwear jackets make it so that he wouldn't want to get anything from a larger company. He didn't make a statement about Goodwear's negative qualities at all, nor that...
  5. thekiyote

    GoodWear Leather - 1939 Werber A-2 (new)

    I'd say reach out to him, probably multiple times until he responds. Maybe I happened to get lucky and caught him when he was checking his emails and jumped the queue. Also, did you have an A-2 or something else? I've also heard that most of what he's been delivering recently have been A-2s...
  7. thekiyote

    GoodWear Leather - 1939 Werber A-2 (new)

    I think I might do that. Might need to wait until the next paycheck, though. I just paid for this one!
  8. thekiyote

    GoodWear Leather - 1939 Werber A-2 (new)

    I'm not sure if the color has a specific name. I kind of picked out the color out of pictures and said "like that one". John said that he started getting shinki again, but I don't know in what quantities or varieties. I know he had enough for two jackets though (mine and the one he's going...
  9. thekiyote

    GoodWear Leather - 1939 Werber A-2 (new)

    So, John is alive. I just received a custom Werber 1939 A-2 from him. For those of you who are curious, I've been on his waiting list since April 2017, when I first started looking at getting a new leather jacket. I ended up ordering an Aero Wayfairer, but John's name was thrown around a lot...
  10. thekiyote

    Good Wear Ventura / Imperial vs. ELMC Californian

    Man, you have a ton of time on me. I'm only at 1 year 8 months. I knew what I was getting into (though, at the time, the website said 18-24 months). Anytime someone gives you a lead time greater than six months, you should treat it as a lottery ticket, especially if the operation is just one...
  11. thekiyote

    HIMEL BROS "CHEVALIER"

    @Mysteryo and @Carlos840, about how heavy are those jackets? I have an Aero in Horween CXL, and it's incredibly thick, built like a tank. I've had a chance to see a himel jacket, but in goat, and it's significantly lighter. I was wondering how much of that difference in thickness is a...
  13. thekiyote

    BK Liberty Hide Questions

    You moved the goalpost there. I doubt anybody here would use your definition of bigotry just being a "different side of the opinion." Preferring pepperoni over sausage on a pizza is an opinion. Trying to forbid anybody else from ordering sausage on their pizza is bigotry, as would sending a...
  14. thekiyote

    BK Liberty Hide Questions

    It's not mine. Credit where credit's due, that's actually how the guy who wrote the Lost Worlds FAQ actually described people who like lambskin leather jackets.
  15. thekiyote

    BK Liberty Hide Questions

    It's interesting where the line is. I read the Lost Worlds FAQ, and I know I am probably the antithesis of who this guy pictures who he sells to. As an early-30s IT guy who lives in a big city and doesn't even own a car, let alone a motorcycle, it got a lot of eye rolls. It is all about the...
  16. thekiyote

    BK Liberty Hide Questions

    Occam's razor says it's probably just one guy a bit off his rocker, but it is theoretically possible that, if I knew your email address, I could send you an email that looks like it came from sales@billkelsomfg.com. If I had a beef against you and/or the company, I could send you a fake email...
  17. thekiyote

    BK Liberty Hide Questions

    That is so weird. Question, has anybody tried emailing sales@billkelsomfg.com and see if they respond with the same tone as the cold harassing emails? I just ask, because it's pretty trivial to fake a from email address, though in that case, it would be an oddly specific troll...
  19. thekiyote

    BK Liberty Hide Questions

    Generally, I'm okay with ignoring a lot of asshole behavior, as long as they produce a good product, but they crossed the line from asshole into straight up bigotry, in which case, I don't care how good they are. I don't know much about the company. Is this just one guy who works for them (who...
  20. thekiyote

    Optimal Weight/Thickness

    All clothing serves the purpose of giving a statement about the wearer. Vintage recreation work wear clothing, like leather jackets, is both a sign of wealth and of being down to earth. The fact is, old methods are harder to employ than modern ones, making the price rise. By wearing it, we're...
  21. thekiyote

    Your position on patina

    When it comes to natural patina, I like to commit to individual items of certain types of clothing, like boots, denim or leather jackets. Because of that, I try to pick items that look good at all of their phases of wear, from new to old, because it's going to be a part of my daily wear and I...
  22. thekiyote

    Optimal Weight/Thickness

    I like heavier leather jackets, but I like heavier clothes in general, whether jackets, flannel or denim. In my experience, heavier weight doesn't mean more durable, warmer or higher quality. It's just a personal preference thing. However, I do get a perverse joy from surprising people when...
  23. thekiyote

    Good Wear Modoc

    I've been on the waiting list for about a year now, and I'm completely okay with it. I'll be honest, if you're buying from a company that's just one guy, and the wait time is more than a couple of months (let alone a few years), you're taking a gamble. A lot of stuff can happen that brings the...

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