I'm afraid I don't know. Their quality is very nice though, I spent a couple of hours at their retail store trying on jackets and chatting with staff and the leather is lovely.
AAA rated safety too, although I realise that's not your priority.
Sorry yes, you did say before.
So I guess you want a jacket that's timeless and classic?
Have you looked at Goldtop?
https://goldtop.co.uk/collections/jackets
I have the Pando Moto version of those leggings, and also a Knox Urbane Pro 2 for the top half. The Pandos fit under any of my jeans, and the Knox is no thicker than a sweatshirt, so I can wear whatever I want and be safe.
I'm also fortunate enough to have specific leather riding jackets and...
This is my attitude too.
People can absolutely wear or not whatever they want for riding, within their local laws, but you'll only ever see me in gloves, boots, helmet, armoured jacket and armoured riding jeans. Although because I carefully buy subtle gear, you probably wouldn't know I was.
The thing that always turns my stomach is seeing people riding with no gloves.
I only have to look at the scraped-up knuckle armour of the gloves I was wearing when I got knocked off to see how much of a no brainer that is.
@Gypsymoth82 it's a bit pointless to offer answers without knowing what your priorities are on the bike. Style? Comfort? Safety? Versatility?
No point suggesting a Vanson C2 for example, if you're dead set against the style of a cross zip.
The best jacket on the bike probably won't work...
Is this anything?
Schott cross zip with removable collar. Seems cheap?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115391085992?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=TfkBKLt0Rte&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=NNo6_JmMRci&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
When I was a student in Newcastle here in the UK at the start of the nineties, there was a shop actually called Flip that only sold vintage American clothing.
There were huge bins of 501s in all conditions, some redyed to garish colours (it was 1991!), and rack after rack of Schott jackets...
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