Kakishibu is a dye made from fermented persimmon, traditionally used in some Japanese garments for a red or brown colour. The specific tone can vary from blood-red to light tan.
To be clear, I'm not saying heavy jackets can't go well. I've just seen a lot of them go badly.
In some cases, it's a product that never should have existed (the CHL and SXL leathers), in other cases it's been someone ordering the heaviest possible leather from Aero and Johnson then coming here...
Kakishibu is not natural leather and I have no idea why people keep saying it is.
Kakishibu is a specific red or brown dye.
Aero is your best bet for this, though personally I think as cool as the concept is, natural veg tan leather ends up just looking hideous. It'll spend a lot of time in...
Probably because most of those guys end up hating their jackets in the end because of the compromises brought on by the overly-thick leather, but don't feel comfortable admitting to it because they think it's like capitulating to unmanliness.
I had already been into shoes and boots for years before I encountered the workwear subculture around them and I’m pretty sure I asked someone “You dropped John Lobb money for this?”
I wouldn’t even be opposed to getting a pair from one of those makers at some point but I hadn’t encountered...
@red devil do you have a thread of your Johnson Peter's jackets? I've been piecing together a mental library between seeing pictures of it some here, some on Johnson's Instagram, etc.
YouTubers are less than clueless so I’d ignore them whether they’re doing tight or the current oversized fashion.
What I’m saying is that paradoxically these stiff Perfecto jackets look smaller when broken in, rather than bigger. So keep that in mind when you’re comparing sizes.
Precisely. The intention is key.
Denim shops or other sellers inexperienced with leather getting the PTP wrong, annoying but excusable.
Quirks on official measuring charts like some makers including collar height in back length while others don’t, just something to clarify.
Actively...
The break in thing is big. Sure, you could go down a size.
On the other hand I’ve found that Schott’s stiff horse and steer actually feel slimmer once broken in because the big panels of leather drape rather than stick out. I experienced this, then still ended up getting a similar jacket one...
My point is it’s not really accurate to say that as though it’s a normal practice at Aero.
I will even recommend some 5 Star stuff, with caveats, but they’ve deliberately shared the wrong measurements on several occasions.
Aero’s leather Type III is excellent because it’s an exact reproduction of the original Levi’s model, developed in collaboration.
Vanson and Schott make great ones (the Maverick and 121, respectively) too. My Schott Type III would be my most worn jacket if not for the fact that I got it a size...
I have not had this experience of Aero or Thurston…
Denim/workwear stores on the other hand do measure leather jackets terribly, possibly because they don't know how?
Yes, I like the Y2 leather, the Shinki pony, etc but even those are I think a bit too stiff for what he's looking for (given how he found the RMC). Vicenza too, for that matter. (I think we 'vets' are taking velvety to mean something different to what OP does. I think he means drape.)
I can see...
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