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    Aero Alternative to Schott P613S Burgundy

    No I meant cordovan CXL because the whole point of this jacket is the CXL.
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    Fine Creek Leather

    Everything Japanese is less expensive now for dollar buyers due to the weak yen, but even with recent increases we’re still talking two Schotts or three Vansons.
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    Aero Alternative to Schott P613S Burgundy

    For the base jacket, I mean the Vincent, which has the body shape you are looking for. Add shoulder gussets, epaulettes, and sewn in belt. Pick Universal for your main zipper and ring for your pocket zippers. The Vincent (known by their U.S. dealer as the Ridley) is designed to accommodate...
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    Aero Alternative to Schott P613S Burgundy

    Cordovan Vincent, with shoulder gussets, sewn-in belt, and the pocket layout of the "Motorcycle Jacket". Get the Universal zipper, which is the most smooth and reliable, and ring pocket pullers like on the Perfecto. This will give you a similar shape to the Perfecto rather than the dramatic...
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    Fine Creek Leon

    The leather looks nice but the design looks really underwhelming. The layout is off, like a Five Star jacket or something.
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    Finds and Deals - Leather Jacket Edition

    I was about to jokingly suggest that @Monitor get this jacket, but then I remembered that Germany exists and what a full-corset leather jacket would probably be used for and now I'll just be losing my dinner.
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    Fine Creek Leon

    To be clear, I really like and go to the shop in question even though I wouldn't buy Iron Heart or FCL, so it's less a dig at them, more an observation of the Self Edge industrial complex lol.
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    Flight jackets with leather (not knitted) cuffs/collar/waistband

    Incorrect. There's much more to patterning than simply checking off measurements. There's no such thing; it was a model name by some makers who wanted to sell Indiana Jones jackets to the flight jacket crowd. They made up a story about it being the original "G-8" flight jacket from the 1920s...
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    Five Star Leather Jackets

    If they got the pattern right for a change on that jacket, maybe the pattern details are still in their system and he could get your jacket with a different pocket configuration.
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    Fine Creek Leon

    Lol no I get what you mean, don't worry. But the problem is that they've embedded themselves in Western denim culture in a way that certain stores (including one in Fishtown I imagine we've both been to) push it as the jacket maker for everybody. While no jacket pattern is for everybody, FCL...
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    Fine Creek Leon

    Except I don't think they do look good in them. Yes, people will add that aesthetics are subjective, but there are some general principles of tailoring, fit, etc. I can even appreciate the 80s/90s (and now revived) oversize, drop shoulder, etc even though I don't personally find it appealing...
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    Fine Creek Leon

    The thing is I don't get who the stereotypical FCL Perfecto fit is for. If someone is a skinny guy with narrow chest/shoulders, he probably doesn't have a beer gut, so why the wide hem/A-shape? It's not just FCL that does this; the baggy waist thing seems to be popular in a lot of Japanese...
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    How many new jackets do you have coming (and how many potential ones)?

    Definitely, but these are designs that go back to the 50s. What I mean is that 80s designs qua 80s don't hold much interest (except perhaps the Aero Highwayman). Maybe a BKS if I found one.
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    Fine Creek Leon

    The new photos with the white hipster guy are terribly sized. I don’t know why they’ve plastered him over US Online Store’s site.
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    How many new jackets do you have coming (and how many potential ones)?

    30s, 70s and 80s are my gaps. (Though I'm not sure I have much interest in filling the 80s gap.) Arguably, 60s is sort of a gap for me because my 60s stuff has been early 60s production of 1950s designs.
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    Fine Creek Leon

    I've experienced this with CXL, Shinki, and Schott's Italian horsehide. @stenaloom , personally I think there's little point considering the Leon when the 613SJH exists. It's a Japan market Schott model that, like the Leon, aims to reproduce vintage Perfectos, and is made using the same...
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    Five Star Leather Jackets

    I’m just saying what it used to be. In any case, I wouldn’t personally ever buy something from SB, even if the jacket was £100 given that they’re unrepentant criminals who stole their patterns from Aero. But many people here are fans and customers of theirs. If you do order from them, good luck...
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    Five Star Leather Jackets

    The leather up charge to baseline Aero grade was already £250 three years ago.
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    Five Star Leather Jackets

    There isn’t a substantial difference between Aero and SB pricing. They try to undercut but the moment you introduce something like Aero equivalent letters, the SB is usually more expensive. Have you looked at Aero’s stock collection, blue label, etc? About a full price level down (two in the...
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    FS: 1950s California Sportwear Civilian Flight Jacket with Original Mouton Collar

    @mysternee I think this is the gold standard version of exactly what you're looking for!

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