I haven't ventured into the realm of high end Panamas, so of the hats I have, I prefer natural straw Milans. I have two really nice vintage ones; a Resistol, and one from the Ecuadorian Panama Hat Co. of New York. I've also got a nice custom Milan from Black Sheep Hat Works.
Optimo is that high because the market can bear it. As Tom mentioned a page or so back, they also have brick and mortar stores. And yes. To an extent, you're also paying for the name. You're paying for the exclusivity (is that even a word?) of their colors, most of which are 'retired' after a...
I have the same question as well. Was told my Dilinger was blocked on a 52 (in that they explicitly said that they could put it on their 52 block when I asked for a straighter crown than appeared on their website), but there seems to be a bit of taper to me. Might be the crease doing it however.
Hmm, I have to point out a caveat to Justin's post above.
As the owner of more than a few 60's hats, I have to say; virtually any hat in decent condition from the 60's or even 70's is going to be better than a hat you can buy off the rack today. The difference in quality between a 50's Stetson...
Both are well made hats. Each offers something the other does not. Optimo has heathered felts, for example. Art has great lightweight felts. Art also does all manners of ribbon.
Art's hats are indeed lower in price (certainly not lower in quality!), but I don't feel like I paid "too much"...
you can always pop it back to open crown, steam and brush it, and start from square one. I've found a bit of steam and pressure from the inside of the hat helps to alleviate old crease lines.
It literally takes years of grabbing at the felt before you'll start looking like Johnny Depp. Yes, you can massage the felt while creasing without worrying about long term damage. For sure it's not good to keep rubbing it, and very tight pinches (think Raiders of The Lost Ark) aren't good for...
This is on your Optimo, no? If it's not holding tight enough on its own, really just a bit of steam is needed. You can also spritz it a bit with distilled water (although I've used filtered water with no ill effects).
Well my friend, the second pic is just too small to be of any use.
The first is no older than the 60's because of the plastic on top and the square price tag, although black sweatbands were more prevalent in the 70's IIRC.
Well it looks like a brim between 2 1/8" and 2 1/4", probably about 5 1/4" open crown height (estimating). There should be any number of hats on ebay which fit those specifications. Shorter brims go relatively cheaply as well.
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