Your Most Disturbing Realizations

[p51]

I cannot tell you how many times (many) I've had this discussion and the other party just looked at me with no comprehension at all. The idea of not sharing everything online is alien to them. And it's not just the young.

I don't know exactly when the concept of personal privacy, and respecting it, began to erode but a common reaction to refusing to share private information these days is, "what do you have to hide?"

Let's face it, we've raised a generation of people now having kids who haven next to no concept of keeping anything close to the vest.
Makes you wonder if people in the military or intelligence communities are worried how they'll find people in the future who will be able to keep things secret that they must for national defense. Will young people in the future even understand how to do so or understand the importance of it?
Yeah, I'm online, a lot. Lots of companies know more about me than I'd like but to a degree, that's the price of admission of going online. But other than my interests, what I buy, look to buy or search online, there's not much you can find out about me on the net.
Social media is one of those things I simply cannot understand why kids feel is a need along the same lines as food shelter and warmth. Even as a teen, I don't think I'd have fallen into that as my social life wasn't the center of my world.
Social media is a pyramid scheme for an advertising platform. That's all it is. And it's not that you can't tell people this, it's that they don't care.

 

[Zombie_61]

My rule of housekeeping:

You must not make your life needless difficult to yourself.

Wise words that apply to more than just housekeeping.

 

[Lean'n'mean]

It's not called the web for nothing, everything is interconnected.
You know you've made it though when you Google your name & you appear on the first page of Google images.....I sometimes have a few photos of mine (not of my mug I hasten to add) appear on my searches, I have no idea how they arrived there nor why Google categorize them in what to me, is often in a completely irrelevant context..

 

[Trenchfriend]

And me, you can not google or bing, for real, HA!
My real name doesn't appear on the internet. I'm 31 and this non-appearance is one of the most important things of life, to me, since I'm real active on the net.

 

[vitanola]

I'm in my mid-fifties. My father's parents were born in '68 and in '75. Mom's parents in '88 and '93. Dad was the youngest of eight. HIS grandfather was 72 when his son was born, so my paternal great-grandfather was born in 1795. Great-grandpa Simeon was also a "change of life" baby. I don,t remember the exact year at the moment, but my great-great grandfather was born in either the late 1730's or early 1740's. Wouldn't THAT make a five generation photograph!

 

[Stanley Doble]

It just struck me that there are people who would lose their minds if they couldn't show off the latest Iphone or electronic gadget as soon as it came out, but think nothing of appearing in public in pyjamas, goofy T shirts, torn jeans and worse.

 

[Fading Fast]

It just struck me that there are people who would lose their minds if they couldn't show off the latest Iphone or electronic gadget as soon as it came out, but think nothing of appearing in public in pyjamas, torn T shirts and worse.

I'm surprised, but as you noted, even pajamas seem to be creeping more and more into the public space. I've seen people walking their dogs in them, usually, in the morning (I kinda get this one, wouldn't do it myself, but you can see how it happens), getting coffee in Starbucks and on early airplane flights (the strangest to me - you don't roll out of bed and "hop" on a plane in our heavy traffic and heavy security world). Since clothes and appropriate attire are all just social constructs, I guess if enough people think it is acceptable then it will be.

 

[Trenchfriend]

 

[HudsonHawk]

It just struck me that there are people who would lose their minds if they couldn't show off the latest Iphone or electronic gadget as soon as it came out, but think nothing of appearing in public in pyjamas, torn T shirts and worse.

The irony being that they will tell you they dress like a bum to show the world they're not a slave to expectations and the Boys.

 

[HudsonHawk]

I'm surprised, but as you noted, even pajamas seem to be creeping more and more into the public space. I've seen people walking their dogs in them, usually, in the morning (I kinda get this one, wouldn't do it myself, but you can see how it happens), getting coffee in Starbucks and on early airplane flights (the strangest to me - you don't roll out of bed and "hop" on a plane in our heavy traffic and heavy security world). Since clothes and appropriate attire are all just social constructs, I guess if enough people think it is acceptable then it will be.

Being on an airplane tends to bring out the worst in people, be it fashion, or anything else.

 

[LizzieMaine]

I routinely go outside to get my stuff off the clothesline in my nightgown, raggedy bathrobe, and hairnet. I don't do this to demonstrate any kind of alliegience to do the struggle, I do it because I can't get dressed until I get all my underwear off the clothesline.

One man who thought revolutionaries needed to look sharp was Earl Browder, the leader of the Communist Party USA during the days of the Popular Front. He was annoyed by all the organizers going around in flat caps, leather jackets and work pants -- a look which would be highly coveted by Loungers today, but which in the thirties denoted "factory hand." Browder felt that party representatives needed to project a certain authority to be respected, and he insisted that most of them wear suits when busy on party duties -- even though most of them were, in fact, factory hands.

 

[Fading Fast]

I routinely go outside to get my stuff off the clothesline in my nightgown, raggedy bathrobe, and hairnet. I don't do this to demonstrate any kind of alliegience to do the struggle, I do it because I can't get dressed until I get all my underwear off the clothesline.

One man who thought revolutionaries needed to look sharp was Earl Browder, the leader of the Communist Party USA during the days of the Popular Front. He was annoyed by all the organizers going around in flat caps, leather jackets and work pants -- a look which would be highly coveted by Loungers today, but which in the thirties denoted "factory hand." Browder felt that party representatives needed to project a certain authority to be respected, and he insisted that most of them wear suits when busy on party duties -- even though most of them were, in fact, factory hands.

I don't have the source material to back this up as I am doing this from memory, but I believe I've read that there was a similar attitude by many of the '60s civil rights leaders that they wanted to be well dressed and have their followers well dressed as one way of showing that what they were demanding - equal rights, equal respect (I know that is an oversimplification) - was something they deserved. It might seem crazy to us now, but dressing well was one way of showing you were a respectable member of society. I am not arguing that this is a right or wrong attitude, but it was a view many held pre the '60s social / cultural changes, so it would make sense to me that some leaders of the change would take the view that dressing well would help advance the cause.

 

[Trenchfriend]

These Converse-sneakers seem to were launched in 1917 and later became popular massmarket on youth in the 50's and a revival as rebellish ghetto-wear (?) in the 70's. And now, they are selling well, everytime, I see that, in Germany. Totally (cheaper) massmarket on globilization.
The hoodie-pullovers were launched in the 30's by "Champion", I've read, as workwear for frozen-storage-workers (?).

These 80s/90s/2000s/2010s-sloppy/convinient-fashion is old-(work)fashion!

 

[LizzieMaine]

Sneakers were popular for ultra-casual wear in the Era -- you'd wear them if you went out to the lake with some friends, or to the shore for a clambake, because if they accidentily got wet it didn't matter. Richard M. Nixon to the contrary, only a complete boob would wear fine leather shoes to the beach.

I remember seeing longshoremen and lobstermen wearing hoodies at work in the sixties, and this was likely common earlier. Anyone who worked in a cold, wet environment was more concerned with function than fashion. To this day, if you see a guy -- or gal -- standing in line at the bank wearing a smelly hoodie and tall rubber boots, you know you're looking at a lobster-boat sternman. It's the uniform.

Fading is quite right about how activists felt the need to look sharper than sharp in the Era and beyond -- with the propaganda from the other side depicting them as cheap, trashy rabble-rousers, and much of the public believing that, it was necessary to play the game according to the rules set by those in power. Malcolm X is another example of an outspoken leader who was absolutely impeccable in his dress, not because he was trying to cozy up to his opponents, but because he was determined to get people to listen to his words rather than be put off by his appearance.

 

[philosophygirl78]

W

* Veterans of the Second World War are to people living in the mid-2010s what Civil War veterans were to Americans living in the 1930s.

*This year's World Series is the first ever to be played between two expansion clubs.

*There are children in school today whose grandparents don't remember the Nixon Administration.

*For the overwhelming majority of people alive on Earth today, there has never been a time when television didn't exist.

What is possibly going on right outside our galaxy...

 

[Trenchfriend]

Sneakers were popular for ultra-casual wear in the Era -- you'd wear them if you went out to the lake with some friends, or to the shore for a clambake, because if they accidentily got wet it didn't matter. Richard M. Nixon to the contrary, only a complete boob would wear fine leather shoes to the beach.

Plausible. Quasi "rubber-functional-clothes".

And today (in Germany, too), the authentic trenchcoat and his real contemporary Sneaker are finding together.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=trenchcoat+sneaker&FORM=HDRSC2

 

[2jakes]

I routinely go outside to get my stuff off the clothesline in my nightgown, raggedy bathrobe, and hairnet. I don't do this to demonstrate any kind of alliegience to do the struggle, I do it because I can't get dressed until I get all my underwear off the clothesline.

At wally-mart your attire is de rigueur with no one batting an eye.

 

[LizzieMaine]

Nah, I went there this morning and didn't see a single person dressed like that. I did see a lot of middle-aged men dressed in camouflage, but it wasn't very effective -- I could spot every one of them.

 

[Trenchfriend]

Oh yeah, these camouflage(trousers)-people!! Over it, there is just big Lebowski, as comparative.

 

[Inkstainedwretch]

I have read that a child being born today stands a good chance of living to be 200 years old. Advances in medicine and geriatrics have been accelerating steadily and in another two or three decades will reach levels unheard-of today. A 200 year life expectancy will make them effectively immortal, since the state of medicine and the life sciences in 200 years will be beyond our imagination. 200 years ago, in 1815, medicine was little better than medieval. So we'd better do a far better job of raising this generation than the last few, because they're going to be around for a long, long time.