Why!!!! Hipsters!!! Why!!!!!

[Yeps]

Either that or it was about 70 years before the whole Occupy thing...

I can't tell if the original post was a joke or not. This thread confuses me.

 

[ButteMT61]

I can't tell if the original post was a joke or not. This thread confuses me.

Meh, does it matter? lol

 

[LizzieMaine]

He's much too well-fed to be a hipster. Looks more like someone who used to post a lot around here, in fact.

 

[Yeps]

He's much too well-fed to be a hipster. Looks more like someone who used to post a lot around here, in fact.

Although the bathing suits in the background certainly don't look modern to me.

 

[ButteMT61]

Awe shucks Paul, now I feel badly as I got the joke. Other than it being Walt Disney - NOT a hipster - what was the point? It's 'tude, not dress.

 

[LizzieMaine]

Although the bathing suits in the background certainly don't look modern to me.

Oh, I knew it was an old pic -- I was joining in the spirit of the post by being sarcastic.

 

[Yeps]

Oh, I knew it was an old pic -- I was joining in the spirit of the post by being sarcastic.

I thought it was, I was just confused. I am a little slow sometimes.

 

[LizzieMaine]

Ol' Walt was no kind of hipster -- he never colonized a working-class neighborhood and drove out the longtime residents. And nothing he ever did was "ironic" -- all the films he made in his lifetime were extremely sincere.

 

[GoldenEraFan]

Ol' Walt was no kind of hipster -- he never colonized a working-class neighborhood and drove out the longtime residents. And nothing he ever did was "ironic" -- all the films he made in his lifetime were extremely sincere.

+1 Well said!

 

[Yeps]

he never colonized a working-class neighborhood and drove out the longtime residents.

Gentrification is an interesting one. Coming from D.C., to us it was always somewhat more racially charged than just socioeconomic. In D.C., gentrification is what happens when middle-upper class whites move into a black neighborhood, drive up rent and all that jazz.

On that note, I could probably be thought of as a gentrifier in the traditional sense. I have a college degree in singing, and I just moved into a very traditional blue collar neighborhood in South Philly (mostly because it was the place I could afford rent). I hope I am not part of driving the locals out though, that would be sad.

 

[LizzieMaine]

Are you paying more in rent than the apartment is worth just for the sake of living in a "cool neighborhood?" That's the trigger that fires the gun of gentrification. On the other hand, if you're not paying a "cool neighborhood" price and you're respecting the culture of the neighborhood rather than trying to impress your own upon it, you'll fit in just fine.

Up here we have what we delicately call "Massholes," youngish people who move up here from out of state, often from upper-middle-class parts of Massachusetts, and immediately thrust themselves into local politics with the goal of making their new home as much like their old home as possible. We locals tend to frown on this, and tend to make our feelings clear on the matter.

 

[ButteMT61]

Sore subject that is for me. We moved into a so-called area that had many of the buzzword residents intact. We did because we wanted an old house and still stay in LA. Inevitably, the prices went through the roof when we created a landmark district (to preserve the area as the city was going to destroy the single family homes for you-know-what). Some used the "G" word, but it was just a political ploy to pit folks against each other. Ironically, the folks that started the group with my wife were black, longtime residents that were happy for some "new blood" to get things back to how they used to be (in their words). The usual suspects were the ones screaming, the rest either enjoyed the windfall and moved or fixed their homes, got new cars, etc.
With the increase in population, and the desire for more people to live in the cities, it's inevitable that this will happen. Are we evil? No. Not sure what the answer is, but it ain't more gub'ment.

 

[Yeps]

Are you paying more in rent than the apartment is worth just for the sake of living in a "cool neighborhood?" That's the trigger that fires the gun of gentrification. On the other hand, if you're not paying a "cool neighborhood" price and you're respecting the culture of the neighborhood rather than trying to impress your own upon it, you'll fit in just fine.

Nope. I can't imagine paying much less (actually, it is a room in a row home, but that is irrelevant) It is a nice neighborhood, and I don't see any reason to try and change it. It's got clean streets, convenient grocery stores, nice neighbors, and is easily accessible by bike. A little far from public transportation, and a couple blocks away, on the other side of the highway, there are a whole bunch of strip clubs. Very weird. But all in all, I like it. (Also, this being an Irish neighborhood, there is a pub on every corner).

 

[jamespowers]

Are you paying more in rent than the apartment is worth just for the sake of living in a "cool neighborhood?" That's the trigger that fires the gun of gentrification. On the other hand, if you're not paying a "cool neighborhood" price and you're respecting the culture of the neighborhood rather than trying to impress your own upon it, you'll fit in just fine.

Up here we have what we delicately call "Massholes," youngish people who move up here from out of state, often from upper-middle-class parts of Massachusetts, and immediately thrust themselves into local politics with the goal of making their new home as much like their old home as possible. We locals tend to frown on this, and tend to make our feelings clear on the matter.

Ah, you are getting what we in California got in the 60s and 70s except it was hippies screwing up the state and politics who came from the east coast. It was not gentrification though---more like ghettoization. I would be happy with gentrification as opposed to hiipieization and the ghettoization they caused.:eusa_doh:

 

[ButteMT61]

Ah, you are getting what we in California got in the 60s and 70s except it was hippies screwing up the state and politics who came from the east coast. It was not gentrification though---more like ghettoization. I would be happy with gentrification as opposed to hiipieization and the ghettoization they caused.:eusa_doh:

I think there's a place down the street powers - come on over!

 

[LizzieMaine]

Our hippies went up into the woods when they came here, and they generally tended to mind their own business. Most of them were "back to the landers" who just wanted to sit in their cabins and do whatever it is that they do. The gentrifiers, on the other hand, move right into town, buy houses up on the cheap, run for selectman and school board, and think the whole purpose of Maine is to be a quaint picture postcard setting for their upper-middle-class boat-owning fantasies. The one good thing about living on a street where there have been meth labs, heroin dealers, and other such things, is that the gentrifiers are scared to death to come near it.

 

[kiwilrdg]

Ah, you are getting what we in California got in the 60s and 70s except it was hippies screwing up the state and politics who came from the east coast.

Sounds more like they are getting what Montana got from California in the 80s and 90s.

 

[ButteMT61]

Sounds more like they are getting what Montana got from California in the 80s and 90s.

Don't forget Seattle. But really, what are you going to propose - not letting people move where they want? What's the answer to this one? I'm all ears.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Berlin's housing bubble and the backlash against hipster tourists [article link]. Glasgow had a similar bubble. Lots of southern folks moved up there and prices rocketed. Then they realised they were in ****ing Glasgow, and got the hell out quick smart.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/18/berlin-backlash-against-hipster-tourists

 

[jamespowers]

Don't forget Seattle. But really, what are you going to propose - not letting people move where they want? What's the answer to this one? I'm all ears.

Send them all to New York.