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B.B. "Bristol" upbrim, wool felt in mixed colors. Probably 30s
Very similar to the Germania, down to the stitching on the brim. All these old woollies are survivor hats; great to see.
Thanks, Stefan! I particularly like the backbows you've postedTalk about survivors! Incredible.
Thanks, Panos. Love the Bristol you've posted above. It's a style I really like.Thanks, Stefan! I particularly like the backbows you've posted
"Orion", 58cm, Open Crown 6 inches, Brim 2 3/8 inches, No Company Mark probably late 1930s.
Altogether fantastic! Thanks for posting, Steve."Orion", 58cm, Open Crown 6 inches, Brim 2 3/8 inches, No Company Mark probably late 1930s.
Matt, Super detection! This solves the issue with these WWII era and earlier no company Wool Hats with similar paper labels and stamps. I always thought that they might come from a Guben source. My guess would be BGH but it could be another factory like C. G. Wilke but I tend to think BGH. The first BGH that you posted is probably 1950s because F. W. Schneider Köln (now Stetson Europe) had the BGH mark. The paper label of that hat has FWS. Thanks regarding the hat!That one's fantastic, Steve! I really dig the felt and ribbon colour combination.
And it's a wonderful example of a high quality wool felt hat - perfect for this thread!
By the way, I think the hat could have come from one of the factories in Guben,
as the coat of arms on the lining matches that of the town:
A very similar crowned city wall with three towers/city gates.
I can hardly imagine that this is a coincidence...
https://guben-online.de/stadt/stadtwappen/wappen/
Panos, Thank you! I have many old European Soft and Stiff Felt Hats. Mostly German and Austrian.Altogether fantastic! Thanks for posting, Steve.
Matt, Super detection! This solves the issue with these WWII era and earlier no company Wool Hats with similar paper labels and stamps. I always thought that they might come from a Guben source. My guess would be BGH but it could be another factory like C. G. Wilke but I tend to think BGH. The first BGH that you posted is probably 1950s because F. W. Schneider Köln (now Stetson Europe) had the BGH mark. The paper label of that hat has FWS. Thanks regarding the hat!
Matt, Yes the paper label and inspection stamps are similar to the other hats.You're welcome, Steve. That was more of a coincidence, as I came across the Guben crest not too long ago when I compared mine to Stefan's dark blue VEB Guben "Luxus" Homburg and inspected the lining of his hat (first picture above). Surely there are other city coats of arms with 3 towers, but I think Guben - whether BGH or Wilke or something else I dare not decide - is obvious. And as you say, even the later "Cologne" hat still bears the coat of arms - that could actually speak for BGH and against Wilke, who - as far as I know - did not use the city coat of arms, right?
Are there any paper labels inside your hat other than the size label?
Old wool hats are great. Unfortunately I haven't managed to get new pics from the ones you sent me (e.g., KAMI) to post them here.Panos, Thank you! I have many old European Soft and Stiff Felt Hats. Mostly German and Austrian.
Matt, Suoer! Most likely the same source. I am currently traveling but when I am back home I will go over what I have documented on my website.Remember that one?
"Panonia" Hut "Deutsche Wertarbeit" in grey (greenish) thick wool felt; no paper labels
ribbon work reminds me of Steve's "Orion
old pics - sweat cleaned up nicely and is now restiched
"German workmanship"
no linner - but marks of a crease clip
Panos, Yes that is a Czech source for Wool Soft Felts. They took over O. F. Hess which also had Fur Felt. B.B. had a Prague factory that made Wool Soft and Stiff Fekt hats. There is info on my website.Old wool hats are great. Unfortunately I haven't managed to get new pics from the ones you sent me (e.g., KAMI) to post them here.
Matt, F. W. Schneider Cologne brought back old company marks. This was a common practice for distributors and large retailers. I am not aware of C.G. Wilke Guben using the coat of arms. Probably should check my website.You're welcome, Steve. That was more of a coincidence, as I came across the Guben crest not too long ago when I compared mine to Stefan's dark blue VEB Guben "Luxus" Homburg and inspected the lining of his hat (first picture above). Surely there are other city coats of arms with 3 towers, but I think Guben - whether BGH or Wilke or something else I dare not decide - is obvious. And as you say, even the later "Cologne" hat still bears the coat of arms - that could actually speak for BGH and against Wilke, who - as far as I know - did not use the city coat of arms, right?
Are there any paper labels inside your hat other than the size label?
That one is also fantastic, Matt!Remember that one?
"Panonia" Hut "Deutsche Wertarbeit" in grey (greenish) thick wool felt; no paper labels
ribbon work reminds me of Steve's "Orion
old pics - sweat cleaned up nicely and is now restiched
"German workmanship"
no linner - but marks of a crease clip