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The BORSALINO BROTHERHOOD

Steinbockhase

Practically Family
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514
Location
Munich, Bavaria, Germany
Hello my fellow Borsalino Fans.
I wanted to show you this one before it leaves my collection forever.
Way to big for me; the largest Borsalino I have ever encountered.
Currently for sale on eBay; auction ends Nov. 7th.

Size: 62 cm = Italy 7 ½ = US 7 3/4
Manufacturing Date: 20th October, 1972

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Steve1857

I'll Lock Up
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8,857
Location
Denmark
Hello my fellow Borsalino Fans.
I wanted to show you this one before it leaves my collection forever.
Way to big for me; the largest Borsalino I have ever encountered.
Currently for sale on eBay; auction ends Nov. 7th.

Size: 62 cm = Italy 7 ½ = US 7 3/4
Manufacturing Date: 20th October, 1972

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Wow! That is one huge size.
Btw, good to see you on the FL again, Georg.
 

TheGuitarFairy

Practically Family
Messages
608
Location
Just West of Boston
Here's an unusually large styled Borsa fit for a Hollywood actor, Leo Carrillo aka Pancho from The Cisco Kid to be exact! I had no clue of this when I snagged hat, I've just always liked these western Borsalino's but I found a few examples of his signature and sure enough it's his on hat's sweat. I assumed when hat arrived I'd find "original" ribbon underneath woven leather band but once I started poking around it was clear leather band was on there <good> and has been a long time (felt's shades lighter under band). No clue if Borsalino would make this hat typically for Tom Campbell's or if the latter ordered it to be presented to Carrillo or if he ordered it for hisself but it definitely makes a statement. (edit .. I'm thinking option #3 is out as embossing of his name is spelled incorrectly and is half arsed in general).
I think model is called a Najauva? 6 1/2" x 3 1/2", felt's very soft and readily hangs on to any bash. Hat also needs a bath and has lost half of sweat's thread (Hello, Robert?). Last Picture is of Leo with this Borsa c1950 (nice of him to leave us such a clear view of Borsa logo et al ; )
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Steve1857

I'll Lock Up
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8,857
Location
Denmark
Here's an unusually large styled Borsa fit for a Hollywood actor, Leo Carillo aka Pancho from The Cisco Kid to be exact! I had no clue of this when I snagged hat, I've just always liked these western Borsalino's but I found a few examples of his signature and sure enough it's his on hat's sweat. I assumed when hat arrived I'd find "original" ribbon underneath woven leather band but once I started poking around it was clear leather band was on there <good> and has been a long time (felt's shades lighter under band). No clue if Borsalino would make this hat typically for Tom Campbell's or if the latter ordered it to be presented to Carillo or if he ordered it for hisself but it definitely makes a statement ; ) 6 1/2" x 3 1/2", felt's very soft and readily hangs on to any bash. Hat also needs a bath and has lost half of sweat's thread (Hello, Robert?). Last Picture is of Leo with this Borsa in 1950.
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That is a whole lot of Borsalino with some interesting 1950s TV Western history added to it.
Smart advertising move by Borsalino.
 
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Here's an unusually large styled Borsa fit for a Hollywood actor, Leo Carillo aka Pancho from The Cisco Kid to be exact! I had no clue of this when I snagged hat, I've just always liked these western Borsalino's but I found a few examples of his signature and sure enough it's his on hat's sweat. I assumed when hat arrived I'd find "original" ribbon underneath woven leather band but once I started poking around it was clear leather band was on there <good> and has been a long time (felt's shades lighter under band). No clue if Borsalino would make this hat typically for Tom Campbell's or if the latter ordered it to be presented to Carillo or if he ordered it for hisself but it definitely makes a statement ; ) I think model is called a Najauva? 6 1/2" x 3 1/2", felt's very soft and readily hangs on to any bash. Hat also needs a bath and has lost half of sweat's thread (Hello, Robert?). Last Picture is of Leo with this Borsa c1950 (nice of him to leave us such a clear view of Borsa logo et al ; )
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Wow! That’s tremendous. Congratulations
 
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19,001
Location
Central California
Here's an unusually large styled Borsa fit for a Hollywood actor, Leo Carillo aka Pancho from The Cisco Kid to be exact! I had no clue of this when I snagged hat, I've just always liked these western Borsalino's but I found a few examples of his signature and sure enough it's his on hat's sweat. I assumed when hat arrived I'd find "original" ribbon underneath woven leather band but once I started poking around it was clear leather band was on there <good> and has been a long time (felt's shades lighter under band). No clue if Borsalino would make this hat typically for Tom Campbell's or if the latter ordered it to be presented to Carillo or if he ordered it for hisself but it definitely makes a statement ; ) I think model is called a Najauva? 6 1/2" x 3 1/2", felt's very soft and readily hangs on to any bash. Hat also needs a bath and has lost half of sweat's thread (Hello, Robert?). Last Picture is of Leo with this Borsa c1950 (nice of him to leave us such a clear view of Borsa logo et al ; )
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Great find! Hoping to see this one make an occasional appearance in the WHAYWT thread for years to come.
 
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18,442
Location
Nederland
We introduce a Borsalino that has an unknown peculiarity in many hats of the house in Alessandria: its size is full, which is strange in the sizes of the Borsalino
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Borsalino Qualità Suprema size 6 1/2 or 60 and 7 1/2 in the US.
View attachment 373959 The color of the felt is "Lupo - Wolf" one of the most difficult to make true in photography
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Medium felt finished with a tone-on-tone belt and a beautiful effect for global colors
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sold in Italy with a soft felt, rare to find in the Qualità Suprema.
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These are measures of the Borsalino : the brims edged by a very thin ribbon to match the felt measure 6 cm. the ribbon in perfect color with the felt is 3 cm and the crown at its lowest point is at 10.
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This too is too wide for my head and as well as the other hats size 60 or 7 1/2 showed these days it is in sale for now without remorse :rolleyes:
Pity it doesn't fit you, Daniele. Great shape to it and I like the Lupo colour.
 
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18,442
Location
Nederland
Hello my fellow Borsalino Fans.
I wanted to show you this one before it leaves my collection forever.
Way to big for me; the largest Borsalino I have ever encountered.
Currently for sale on eBay; auction ends Nov. 7th.

Size: 62 cm = Italy 7 ½ = US 7 3/4
Manufacturing Date: 20th October, 1972

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Glad to see you posting again, Georg.
Very interesting: that's the latest example we've seen of this type of label. The theory was that they stopped using this by the end of the sixties. The hat could have been a shop remnant though, so no definitive proof.
 
Messages
18,442
Location
Nederland
Here's an unusually large styled Borsa fit for a Hollywood actor, Leo Carrillo aka Pancho from The Cisco Kid to be exact! I had no clue of this when I snagged hat, I've just always liked these western Borsalino's but I found a few examples of his signature and sure enough it's his on hat's sweat. I assumed when hat arrived I'd find "original" ribbon underneath woven leather band but once I started poking around it was clear leather band was on there <good> and has been a long time (felt's shades lighter under band). No clue if Borsalino would make this hat typically for Tom Campbell's or if the latter ordered it to be presented to Carrillo or if he ordered it for hisself but it definitely makes a statement. (edit .. I'm thinking option #3 is out as embossing of his name is spelled incorrectly and is half arsed in general).
I think model is called a Najauva? 6 1/2" x 3 1/2", felt's very soft and readily hangs on to any bash. Hat also needs a bath and has lost half of sweat's thread (Hello, Robert?). Last Picture is of Leo with this Borsa c1950 (nice of him to leave us such a clear view of Borsa logo et al ; )
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Great find and wonderful back story to go along with it. Naiauva 44 is what I make out to be the model name: first one we've seen with that moniker.
 

Wyldkarma

One Too Many
Messages
1,805
Location
Austin, TX
Recently added Borsalino. Not sure of age but appears as brand new / unworn. 2-2/4 brim and 5-1/5 crown. Shapes easliy w/o steam. I have several Borso's but the felt on this one is by far the lightest and softest. I believe the lower left side of the perforated tag says Rutenio?

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Central California

Wyldkarma

One Too Many
Messages
1,805
Location
Austin, TX
Haven't come across any Borsalinos for a while, then suddenly, I bag 6 of them. This one was the first to arrive. Quite new, even still has the tag. Not up to the quality of vintage Borsalinos, but it looks nice. I was drawn by the colour and the fact that it was sold in Petitgas; Denmark's oldest, still in existence hat shop.
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Wow, great "snags" Steve.
 

Steve1857

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8,857
Location
Denmark

Daniele Tanto

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4,246
Location
Verona - Italia
I hope this is the last chapter of the "Beautiful and Impossible" series, at least for this year.
Brother of Brummel's, in size, that you see in this thread has aroused enormous interest, later revealing itself to be a bitter disappointment.
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The size ruled out any possibility for me and for Stefan as well.
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Borsalino Qualit° Superiore (on the front of the sweatband) size 54 centimeters or 3 1/2 for the French and 6 3/4 in the USA.

The trademark, in yellow, is barely visible above the tip of the Cession hats shop in Liège.
I have rarely seen the Borsalino logo printed directly on the felt and this leads me to think it is a hat from before the Second World War or made immediately after.

The paper label suggests the second hypothesis.
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The color of the felt is "Rutenio" and the type of hat is "Etnasti" (never found in my life)
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The proportions of this rare Borsalino Lord hat are as follows: brim curled at 6 cm. the ribbon is 4cm and the height of the crown at its minimum point is 10cm.
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He too was bought in the Cession shop in Liège - Belgium a few years ago.
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I have no hat of this shape and having one either in black or as this would have been a satisfaction, it is instead destined to remain in my personal museum, as long as a small size shows up :)
 
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15,083
Location
Buffalo, NY
I hope this is the last chapter of the "Beautiful and Impossible" series, at least for this year.

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The size ruled out any possibility for me and for Stefan as well.
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Borsalino Qualit° Superiore (on the front of the sweatband) size 54 centimeters or 3 1/2 for the French and 6 3/4 in the USA.

The trademark, in yellow, is barely visible above the tip of the Cession hats shop in Liège.
I have rarely seen the Borsalino logo printed directly on the felt and this leads me to think it is a hat from before the Second World War or made immediately after.

The paper label suggests the second hypothesis.
lord_borsa_interno_totale-1-jpg.375489

The color of the felt is "Rutenio" and the type of hat is "Etnasti" (never found in my life)
lord_borsa_6_modificato-1-1-jpg.375490

The proportions of this rare Borsalino Lord hat are as follows: brim curled at 6 cm. the ribbon is 4cm and the height of the crown at its minimum point is 10cm.
lord_borsa_7_modificato-1-1-jpg.375493

He too was bought in the Cession shop in Liège - Belgium a few years ago.
lord_borsa_9-1-jpg.375496

I have no hat of this shape and having one either in black or as this would have been a satisfaction, it is instead destined to remain in my personal museum, as long as a small size shows up :)
Recently added Borsalino. Not sure of age but appears as brand new / unworn. 2-2/4 brim and 5-1/5 crown. Shapes easliy w/o steam. I have several Borso's but the felt on this one is by far the lightest and softest. I believe the lower left side of the perforated tag says Rutenio?

Wonderful form on this curled brim. Interesting to have two Rutenio (ruthenium) marked felts that are so different in tone.
 

Daniele Tanto

I'll Lock Up
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4,246
Location
Verona - Italia
Wonderful form on this curled brim. Interesting to have two Rutenio (ruthenium) marked felts that are so different in tone.
Alan, your observation is perfect, but it has an explanation: the red bricks of the house behind the wisteria that supports the en plein air set greatly influence the gray felts. I made arrangements with a colleague to photograph the hats in the studio. The best color is one in which gray has no dominant. The first is the most faithful
 

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