The BORSALINO BROTHERHOOD

[steur]

Another find this week. Borsalino Amiata. Size 60 with the raw edge brim at 5cm an the crown at 11cm at the center dent. The label points towards 1977 for this one.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

You would be deep into petting hat territory with that one, Brent.

Yeah, I do like those petting hats.
I kept telling myself that I don’t need another stingy brim no matter how nice, but as usual my resolve crumbled…after all, vintage 7 5/8 Borsalinos don’t grown on trees.

 

[steur]

Yeah, I do like those petting hats.
I kept telling myself that I don’t need another stingy brim no matter how nice, but as usual my resolve crumbled…after all, vintage 7 5/8 Borsalinos don’t grown on trees.

You tell me!

 

[TheOldFashioned]

Export Qualität Gran Lusso lobbia in Nizza:

Specs:

5-1/4" Crown (open)
2-1/2" Brim
1-9/16" Ribbon
128g Weight
​

I didn't really need another grey homburg but I didn't have one that was tone on tone. Bonus that it was a German market Gran Lusso with a wind trolley. Also had the European style initial pins on the sweatband and that shape reinforcement (?) insert in the front. How could I possibly say no?

Perhaps a big brother to Stefan's Nizza lobbia as well?

 

[Daniele Tanto]

Today I introduce you to the Borsalino range sold in Italy in the 60s and 70s.
None of the hats presented and made in Alessandria have a glued lining, they are all with a sewn lining, therefore they are still in the era of classic production. They are children of their time.

Borsalino Qualità Extra Superiore size 4 1/2 or 56 cm or 6 7/8 in the USA. The color of the felt, of medium-fine consistency and soft to be able to shape it with your hands, is "Noce-Walnut".

The ribbon and the hem of the brims are in a slight contrast in color, compared to the felt. Classic with autumn colors.

These are the measures: the edged brims are at 5 cm, the crown at its lowest point is at 10 cm. and the ribbon, of the same color as the one that borders the wings, is 3 centimeters.

Borsalino Qualità Superiore size 5 or 57 centimeters in the USA becomes a 7. The color of the felt is not specified on the paper label. It is a color that I don't have in my collection. The felt is medium, consistent in the crown, less in the brims.

Classic shape in those years with the elegant hem of the brims in contrast with the felt and even more the ribbon with the bow.

These are the measures: Tense, edged, at 5 cm., Contrasting ribbon at 3 cm. and the crown at the lowest point is 10 cm.

Sold in my city in Piazza Erbe, the ancient Roman forum is probably the oldest of the three.
Borsalino without denomination of quality, the size is 5 or 57 centimeters in the US it becomes a 7.

The felt is soft and very malleable with an overall profiled shape. Color is one of the Borsalino grays and find out which one is a small business.

Very classic it has the following measures: brims, sewn with two seams above 5.5 cm., the lowest point crown is 10 cm and the light contrasting ribbon is 3 cm.
They are all three for sale at very fair prices. You ask, I will answer

 

[Daniele Tanto]

To be fair and give all possible information, here is the continuation of the presentation of the three Borsalinos

Borsalino "Noce-Walnut" Qualità Extra Superiore was probably used,

but from the lining and sweatband it seems to have made very few trips on someone's head

Borsalino Qualità Superiore it is new,

it comes from a warehouse stock

Borsalino sold by "Spaggiari" in Verona it was used very little

as you can see from the inside.
For the actual measurements of the interior ask and you will get the answers.

 

[steur]

Export Qualität Gran Lusso lobbia in Nizza:
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Specs:

5-1/4" Crown (open)
2-1/2" Brim
1-9/16" Ribbon
128g Weight
​

I didn't really need another grey homburg but I didn't have one that was tone on tone. Bonus that it was a German market Gran Lusso with a wind trolley. Also had the European style initial pins on the sweatband and that shape reinforcement (?) insert in the front. How could I possibly say no?

Perhaps a big brother to Stefan's Nizza lobbia as well?

Great catch, Jonathan. It's a nice muted sort of colour and the Export Qualität ones are always worth getting.

To be fair and give all possible information, here is the continuation of the presentation of the three Borsalinos

Borsalino "Noce-Walnut" Qualità Extra Superiore was probably used,

but from the lining and sweatband it seems to have made very few trips on someone's head

Borsalino Qualità Superiore it is new,

it comes from a warehouse stock

Borsalino sold by "Spaggiari" in Verona it was used very little

as you can see from the inside.
For the actual measurements of the interior ask and you will get the answers.

Three nice examples of the Borsalino versatility. The second one is remarkable in its colour an styling for a modern Borsalino. Reminds me very much of my Bocciasti model in Ghiaccio colour:

 

[steur]

New to the Borsalino family (as we know it).
Borsalino Farotto in the colour Malva, which means "mauve". It doesn't look mauve to my eye, but what do I know (I'm colourblind or at least colourweak). Overwelt brim with a partial spiral stitch at 7cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. I call it a spiral stitch, but it's not really a spiral but separate closed ovals, which stop hafway down the brim from the edge.
The model name Farotto is a new one. The name actually means something: it's a dish similar to risotto, but made with "farro" (spelled grain). Both model name and the size are written on the label. What is missing on the label is the number that we always find in the upper left corner. First time I've seen that. The hat has a bit of a womens' hat styling about it, with the light coloured ribbon. The flange on it when it arrived was quite extreme with a sharp upturned brim at the back, wrapping around the crown. Still needs a bit of work, but it's wearable already. I'm thinking forties on this one. Weighs 113 grams.

 

[Daniele Tanto]

New to the Borsalino family (as we know it).
Borsalino Farotto in the colour Malva, which means "mauve". It doesn't look mauve to my eye, but what do I know (I'm colourblind or at least colourweak). Overwelt brim with a partial spiral stitch at 7cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. I call it a spiral stitch, but it's not really a spiral but separate closed ovals, which stop hafway down the brim from the edge.
The model name Farotto is a new one. The name actually means something: it's a dish similar to risotto, but made with "farro" (spelled grain). Both model name and the size are written on the label. What is missing on the label is the number that we always find in the upper left corner. First time I've seen that. The hat has a bit of a womens' hat styling about it, with the light coloured ribbon. The flange on it when it arrived was quite extreme with a sharp upturned brim at the back, wrapping around the crown. Still needs a bit of work, but it's wearable already. I'm thinking forties on this one. Weighs 113 grams.

Nice find and very interesting discovery, Stefan.
At first glance it would seem younger than an eighty-year-old, but given the label it seems to belong to that period, provided that this is not one of Borsalino's magic capable of rejuvenating old felts with new shapes, perhaps left in the warehouse or on the shelves of processing for years.
In the end, a great hat and rare in its style

 

[Daniele Tanto]

It was bought for my personal collection even though it has a few rare moth bites that are not seen.

I was fascinated by the color and its condition. The size was 6, therefore a 59cm which when it arrived turned out to be a perfect 58.

Borsalino Qualità Extra Superiore nominally size 6 or 7 3/8 but in reality a 58 or 7 1/4.

Very well maintained it has a particularity, there is the "Qualità Ssuperiore" mold on the front of the sweatband

The felt color is "Druga" and the hatband is matching the felt. This is finished with a light fur and is very soft.

The measurements are as follows: the brims, over-sewn are at 5.5 cm. and the ribbon is 3.5cm high, the crown at its minimum height is 10cm.

Very well proportioned is a classic Eighties Borsalino with a rare color and real elegant

 

[mayserwegener]

It was bought for my personal collection even though it has a few rare moth bites that are not seen.
View attachment 378792 I was fascinated by the color and its condition. The size was 6, therefore a 59cm which when it arrived turned out to be a perfect 58.
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Borsalino Qualità Extra Superiore nominally size 6 or 7 3/8 but in reality a 58 or 7 1/4.
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Very well maintained it has a particularity, there is the "Qualità Ssuperiore" mold on the front of the sweatband
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The felt color is "Druga" and the hatband is matching the felt. This is finished with a light fur and is very soft.
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The measurements are as follows: the brims, over-sewn are at 5.5 cm. and the ribbon is 3.5cm high, the crown at its minimum height is 10cm.
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Very well proportioned is a classic Eighties Borsalino with a rare color and real elegant

Daniele, Great find! Really like the Felt - Band color combination. Also the Felt Finish and Hat Form.

 

[mayserwegener]

New to the Borsalino family (as we know it).
Borsalino Farotto in the colour Malva, which means "mauve". It doesn't look mauve to my eye, but what do I know (I'm colourblind or at least colourweak). Overwelt brim with a partial spiral stitch at 7cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. I call it a spiral stitch, but it's not really a spiral but separate closed ovals, which stop hafway down the brim from the edge.
The model name Farotto is a new one. The name actually means something: it's a dish similar to risotto, but made with "farro" (spelled grain). Both model name and the size are written on the label. What is missing on the label is the number that we always find in the upper left corner. First time I've seen that. The hat has a bit of a womens' hat styling about it, with the light coloured ribbon. The flange on it when it arrived was quite extreme with a sharp upturned brim at the back, wrapping around the crown. Still needs a bit of work, but it's wearable already. I'm thinking forties on this one. Weighs 113 grams.

Stefan, Super find! The Brim treatment is special. Overall (Felt, Color, Finish, Form) really fantastic!

 

[mayserwegener]

Export Qualität Gran Lusso lobbia in Nizza:
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Specs:

5-1/4" Crown (open)
2-1/2" Brim
1-9/16" Ribbon
128g Weight
​

I didn't really need another grey homburg but I didn't have one that was tone on tone. Bonus that it was a German market Gran Lusso with a wind trolley. Also had the European style initial pins on the sweatband and that shape reinforcement (?) insert in the front. How could I possibly say no?

Perhaps a big brother to Stefan's Nizza lobbia as well?

Great looking German Market Borsalino Homburg! I think it's earlier "Export Qualität" so possibly early to mid 1960s.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

I wish I could contribute to this thread more often: There’s just something special about vintage Borsalinos.

Despite my resolve to not buy more stingy brims, I couldn’t resist this velour. The black is so deep and so complete it’s like it’s like the void of space. 5 1/2” open crown and 2” raw ends brim. The felt is so malleable that it’s impossible for the hat to not change shape throughout the day. The hand is velvety smooth. While it isn’t a generous fit, I’d say it fits close to true to size…not something you can take for granted with Borsalino.

In my next day off I’ll fix the wind trolley and flatten out the ribbon.

 

[Blare]

I wish I could contribute to this thread more often: There’s just something special about vintage Borsalinos.

Despite my resolve to not buy more stingy brims, I couldn’t resist this velour. The black is so deep and so complete it’s like it’s like the void of space. 5 1/2” open crown and 2” raw ends brim. The felt is so malleable that it’s impossible for the hat to not change shape throughout the day. The hand is velvety smooth. While it isn’t a generous fit, I’d say it fits close to true to size…not something you can take for granted with Borsalino.

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In my next day off I’ll fix the wind trolley and flatten out the ribbon.

Excellent nice find Brent. Looks good on you.

 

[Steve1857]

I wish I could contribute to this thread more often: There’s just something special about vintage Borsalinos.

Despite my resolve to not buy more stingy brims, I couldn’t resist this velour. The black is so deep and so complete it’s like it’s like the void of space. 5 1/2” open crown and 2” raw ends brim. The felt is so malleable that it’s impossible for the hat to not change shape throughout the day. The hand is velvety smooth. While it isn’t a generous fit, I’d say it fits close to true to size…not something you can take for granted with Borsalino.

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In my next day off I’ll fix the wind trolley and flatten out the ribbon.

Another great short brim addition to the collection, Brent.

 

[PanosChris]

I wish I could contribute to this thread more often: There’s just something special about vintage Borsalinos.

Despite my resolve to not buy more stingy brims, I couldn’t resist this velour. The black is so deep and so complete it’s like it’s like the void of space. 5 1/2” open crown and 2” raw ends brim. The felt is so malleable that it’s impossible for the hat to not change shape throughout the day. The hand is velvety smooth. While it isn’t a generous fit, I’d say it fits close to true to size…not something you can take for granted with Borsalino.

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In my next day off I’ll fix the wind trolley and flatten out the ribbon.

It looks fantastic Brent, congrats! The velour finish seems super. Strange about the use of Morello though for the colour, I think

 

[Steve1857]

It looks fantastic Brent, congrats! The velour finish seems super. Strange about the use of Morello though for the colour, I think

I think the name probably refers to a black horse, cavallo morello in Italian. The look of the velour felt could lead one to think so at least.

Borsalino were often very inventive with their colour names.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

It looks fantastic Brent, congrats! The velour finish seems super. Strange about the use of Morello though for the colour, I think

Thanks, Panos. I don’t claim to know much about Borsalino other than if I see a vintage one I like I should buy it immediately because it will probably be even nicer than I hoped.

 

[PanosChris]

I think the name probably refers to a black horse, cavallo morello in Italian. The look of the velour felt could lead one to think so at least.

Borsalino were often very inventive with their colour names.

I agree, the source of inspiration is endless. Regardless however I think there was some kind of consistency within the same name-codes, but then maybe not.
Anyways that is my Morello