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Side By Side/ Hat Comparisons

Daniele Tanto

I'll Lock Up
Messages
4,247
Location
Verona - Italia
Pre-1920s Austrian Velours
A. Peschel - Brown
Dunlap - Black

Each of these hats are done in the velour finish. The Felts of each is extremely malleable to the touch, almost as if a breeze will shape the felt. The Peschel has had its sweatband, and ribbon replaced a few years back, while the Dunlap retains its original equipment

Each hat has a Sheen to it when held in the light, which is common on velour finishes. Each hat has been flanged to be worn up brim, which was common when they were created. This is where I will stop my rambling, and let the photos do the talking
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c.1900s Stetson Exposition Velour & c.1920s Stetson Clear Nutria Velour "Extra Lightweight"

For your viewing pleasure today, I will be comparing two of my favorite hats. Each hat is a deep black velour finish, with silver felt fibers throughout the Hat. The 1900s example carries an elegant brim curl, whereas the 1920s hat has more of a flatter flange.

Looking at each of the hats ribbons, the 1900s hat has a more squared off bow, whereas the 1920s variant has a little flare towards the rear of the bow.

The crown profile of each hat is fairly similar, straight sides with a flat top, though the earlier hat has a more rounded profile, reminiscent of some early Derbies that I have seen. Be felt on the nutria is extremely soft and if I blow hard enough on the top of the Hat I am able to cause the crown to somewhat slightly bash in.

Looking at the inside construction, each hat is readed, and the sweatbands are attached with the V stitching of the era. Each hat Bears a taped sweatband scene, and both their the circular size sticker. The early exposition has a texturized sweatband, whereas the nutria has an extremely smooth sweatband. The 1900s hat also has a unique liner, which has swirlish type designs which I have tried to photograph.

Looking at you size tags behind the sweatband, the Nutria has the tri-pannel, where is the early has a size sticker that I have not seen in my collection before, only online. Now I will stop my ramblings and let the photos finish talking
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The hats in the pictures speak for themselves!
Fantastic and wonderful, nothing else to add!
Complimenti Justin!
 
Messages
12,384
Location
Albany Oregon
c.1900s Stetson Exposition Velour & c.1920s Stetson Clear Nutria Velour "Extra Lightweight"

For your viewing pleasure today, I will be comparing two of my favorite hats. Each hat is a deep black velour finish, with silver felt fibers throughout the Hat. The 1900s example carries an elegant brim curl, whereas the 1920s hat has more of a flatter flange.

Looking at each of the hats ribbons, the 1900s hat has a more squared off bow, whereas the 1920s variant has a little flare towards the rear of the bow.

The crown profile of each hat is fairly similar, straight sides with a flat top, though the earlier hat has a more rounded profile, reminiscent of some early Derbies that I have seen. Be felt on the nutria is extremely soft and if I blow hard enough on the top of the Hat I am able to cause the crown to somewhat slightly bash in.

Looking at the inside construction, each hat is readed, and the sweatbands are attached with the V stitching of the era. Each hat Bears a taped sweatband scene, and both their the circular size sticker. The early exposition has a texturized sweatband, whereas the nutria has an extremely smooth sweatband. The 1900s hat also has a unique liner, which has swirlish type designs which I have tried to photograph.

Looking at you size tags behind the sweatband, the Nutria has the tri-pannel, where is the early has a size sticker that I have not seen in my collection before, only online. Now I will stop my ramblings and let the photos finish talking
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Another great comparison entry Justin. It is interesting how the light is such a friend to a velour. I can only imagine some stylish men standing on the steps of a NY building on a sunny autumn day in these hats, shining.
 

splintercellsz

I'll Lock Up
Messages
6,142
Location
Somewhere in Time
c.1930s & 1940-45 Dobbs Cross Countries

Today, I will be comparing these two examples.

The '30s hat is pale grey with blue/purple undertones depending on lighting, where the '40s De Luxe is grey with what appears to be a slight greenish/blue undertone to the felt.

Side by side, the '40s model seems to be more "blockish" in the crown form, where the '30s has slight reverse taper. From the side, we can see that the 40's has inwards taper, where the '30s maintains a decently straight profile.

The '30s has a raw edge brim treatment, where the '40s has the "Improved Felted Welt Edge", which can be seen in the close up photograph.

The felt to each is extremely smooth to the touch, with the lighter hat being the '30s example (I don't own a scale so I go by the weight in hand). The sweatbands on each are extremely thin, with the '30s being unredded, and the '40s having a reed. The rear seams on the 30s hat is taped, whereas the '40s is stitched together.

Note how hat information labels (behind sweatband) changed within a 10 year span.

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Messages
18,449
Location
Nederland
c.1930s & 1940-45 Dobbs Cross Countries

Today, I will be comparing these two examples.

The '30s hat is pale grey with blue/purple undertones depending on lighting, where the '40s De Luxe is grey with what appears to be a slight greenish/blue undertone to the felt.

Side by side, the '40s model seems to be more "blockish" in the crown form, where the '30s has slight reverse taper. From the side, we can see that the 40's has inwards taper, where the '30s maintains a decently straight profile.

The '30s has a raw edge brim treatment, where the '40s has the "Improved Felted Welt Edge", which can be seen in the close up photograph.

The felt to each is extremely smooth to the touch, with the lighter hat being the '30s example (I don't own a scale so I go by the weight in hand). The sweatbands on each are extremely thin, with the '30s being unredded, and the '40s having a reed. The rear seams on the 30s hat is taped, whereas the '40s is stitched together.

Note how hat information labels (behind sweatband) changed within a 10 year span.

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37908310931_94f5377742_b.jpg

26132176109_33e723119b_b.jpg

26132175209_83f5e1a373_b.jpg

37877502562_c58e1f9798_b.jpg

37859816866_979526dbab_b.jpg

37908306491_ac225a28d2_b.jpg

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Outstanding. Thanks for sharing.
 

KarlCrow

One Too Many
c.1930s & 1940-45 Dobbs Cross Countries

Today, I will be comparing these two examples.

The '30s hat is pale grey with blue/purple undertones depending on lighting, where the '40s De Luxe is grey with what appears to be a slight greenish/blue undertone to the felt.

Side by side, the '40s model seems to be more "blockish" in the crown form, where the '30s has slight reverse taper. From the side, we can see that the 40's has inwards taper, where the '30s maintains a decently straight profile.

The '30s has a raw edge brim treatment, where the '40s has the "Improved Felted Welt Edge", which can be seen in the close up photograph.

The felt to each is extremely smooth to the touch, with the lighter hat being the '30s example (I don't own a scale so I go by the weight in hand). The sweatbands on each are extremely thin, with the '30s being unredded, and the '40s having a reed. The rear seams on the 30s hat is taped, whereas the '40s is stitched together.

Note how hat information labels (behind sweatband) changed within a 10 year span.

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37908310931_94f5377742_b.jpg

26132176109_33e723119b_b.jpg

26132175209_83f5e1a373_b.jpg

37877502562_c58e1f9798_b.jpg

37859816866_979526dbab_b.jpg

37908306491_ac225a28d2_b.jpg

37859815836_f86103f46c_b.jpg

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37859814596_9e125b5509_b.jpg

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Fascinating, and amazing hats too.
 

FedOregon

I'll Lock Up
Messages
5,134
Location
Oregon
c.1930s & 1940-45 Dobbs Cross Countries

Today, I will be comparing these two examples.

The '30s hat is pale grey with blue/purple undertones depending on lighting, where the '40s De Luxe is grey with what appears to be a slight greenish/blue undertone to the felt.

Side by side, the '40s model seems to be more "blockish" in the crown form, where the '30s has slight reverse taper. From the side, we can see that the 40's has inwards taper, where the '30s maintains a decently straight profile.

The '30s has a raw edge brim treatment, where the '40s has the "Improved Felted Welt Edge", which can be seen in the close up photograph.

The felt to each is extremely smooth to the touch, with the lighter hat being the '30s example (I don't own a scale so I go by the weight in hand). The sweatbands on each are extremely thin, with the '30s being unredded, and the '40s having a reed. The rear seams on the 30s hat is taped, whereas the '40s is stitched together.

Note how hat information labels (behind sweatband) changed within a 10 year span.

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37908310931_94f5377742_b.jpg

26132176109_33e723119b_b.jpg

26132175209_83f5e1a373_b.jpg

37877502562_c58e1f9798_b.jpg

37859816866_979526dbab_b.jpg

37908306491_ac225a28d2_b.jpg

37859815836_f86103f46c_b.jpg

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37859814596_9e125b5509_b.jpg

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Wonderful comparison, Justin. Thank you.
 

splintercellsz

I'll Lock Up
Messages
6,142
Location
Somewhere in Time
beautifully done Justin ... I didn't want it to end

really great

thank you

my OPS era CC is among the lightest and thinnest hats I have ever handled ... just something about these hats

you are lucky to own these ... wonderful examples my friend ... just awesome
Dobbs knocked it out of the park with the CC platform, didn't they?

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Rogera

My Mail is Forwarded Here
Messages
3,365
Location
West Texas
c.1930s & 1940-45 Dobbs Cross Countries

Today, I will be comparing these two examples.

The '30s hat is pale grey with blue/purple undertones depending on lighting, where the '40s De Luxe is grey with what appears to be a slight greenish/blue undertone to the felt.

Side by side, the '40s model seems to be more "blockish" in the crown form, where the '30s has slight reverse taper. From the side, we can see that the 40's has inwards taper, where the '30s maintains a decently straight profile.

The '30s has a raw edge brim treatment, where the '40s has the "Improved Felted Welt Edge", which can be seen in the close up photograph.

The felt to each is extremely smooth to the touch, with the lighter hat being the '30s example (I don't own a scale so I go by the weight in hand). The sweatbands on each are extremely thin, with the '30s being unredded, and the '40s having a reed. The rear seams on the 30s hat is taped, whereas the '40s is stitched together.

Note how hat information labels (behind sweatband) changed within a 10 year span.

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37908310931_94f5377742_b.jpg

26132176109_33e723119b_b.jpg

26132175209_83f5e1a373_b.jpg

37877502562_c58e1f9798_b.jpg

37859816866_979526dbab_b.jpg

37908306491_ac225a28d2_b.jpg

37859815836_f86103f46c_b.jpg

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Very nice Justin. Two stunning examples of the pinnacle of hat making.
 
Messages
12,384
Location
Albany Oregon
c.1930s & 1940-45 Dobbs Cross Countries

Today, I will be comparing these two examples.

The '30s hat is pale grey with blue/purple undertones depending on lighting, where the '40s De Luxe is grey with what appears to be a slight greenish/blue undertone to the felt.

Side by side, the '40s model seems to be more "blockish" in the crown form, where the '30s has slight reverse taper. From the side, we can see that the 40's has inwards taper, where the '30s maintains a decently straight profile.

The '30s has a raw edge brim treatment, where the '40s has the "Improved Felted Welt Edge", which can be seen in the close up photograph.

The felt to each is extremely smooth to the touch, with the lighter hat being the '30s example (I don't own a scale so I go by the weight in hand). The sweatbands on each are extremely thin, with the '30s being unredded, and the '40s having a reed. The rear seams on the 30s hat is taped, whereas the '40s is stitched together.

Note how hat information labels (behind sweatband) changed within a 10 year span.

37908311901_4da11f12c1_b.jpg

37908310931_94f5377742_b.jpg

26132176109_33e723119b_b.jpg

26132175209_83f5e1a373_b.jpg

37877502562_c58e1f9798_b.jpg

37859816866_979526dbab_b.jpg

37908306491_ac225a28d2_b.jpg

37859815836_f86103f46c_b.jpg

37908304341_cac37a3e25_b.jpg

37859814596_9e125b5509_b.jpg

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This was a great one Justin. I have been enjoying your series of comparisons. I wish I had hats like this to compare.
 

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