Show us your TIES

[BobHufford]

Don’t usually go for 100% polyester ties, but it has spurs...so...

 

[dh66]

Good one!

Urban cowboy era, you reckon? Or earlier?

Don’t usually go for 100% polyester ties, but it has spurs...so...

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[BobHufford]

Good one!

Urban cowboy era, you reckon? Or earlier?

Thanks Dale! I'd guess a little earlier. Did those Urban Cowboy guys wear ties?

 

[dh66]

Thanks Dale! I'd guess a little earlier. Did those Urban Cowboy guys wear ties?

Ha! Your probably right. Best I remember, the urban cowboy era was around 79 or 80. I'd guess any kind of neckwear involved unbuttoned shirts and gold chains and maybe some chest hair. What throws me most about yours is the use of the word polyester. There was sure never a shortage of it, but in the late 50s and through the 60s usually they called it names like dacron or orlon or some other fancy patented name. The Tex Tan just calls it like it is.

It's an interesting one either way. The alternating ombre stripe and strips of spurs caught my eye. I did a little research on the label whilst drinking my coffee this morning. Best I can tell Tex Tan was a saddle maker that started out in Yoakum, Texas that at some point branched out into accessories. I found belts, wallets, and engraved silver cufflinks with their brand, as well as ties.

I've included some photos I found on the internet. The first few are like yours. Then a label I'd peg as more accurately being from the urban cowboy era. The font has that star wars-ish late 70s/early 80s mod look to it. The last pic is an old clip-on that ties the neckwear to the saddle company definitively.

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[BobHufford]

Ha! Your probably right. Best I remember, the urban cowboy era was around 79 or 80. I'd guess any kind of neckwear involved unbuttoned shirts and gold chains and maybe some chest hair. What throws me most about yours is the use of the word polyester. There was sure never a shortage of it, but in the late 50s and through the 60s usually they called it names like dacron or orlon or some other fancy patented name. The Tex Tan just calls it like it is.

It's an interesting one either way. The alternating ombre stripe and strips of spurs caught my eye. I did a little research on the label whilst drinking my coffee this morning. Best I can tell Tex Tan was a saddle maker that started out in Yoakum, Texas that at some point branched out into accessories. I found belts, wallets, and engraved silver cufflinks with their brand, as well as ties.

Nice research Dale! Thanks for that...

 

[Bugguy]

I recently picked a couple of ties that I like - I'm gravitating to a deco 60's style (I can never tell exactly). I have several of the Palatina because I like the bold patterns:



My favorite is the Gail Makenzie - Hand Marbled. I believe she recently retired on the West Coast. I'll be looking for more of these:

 

[Bugguy]

The back of the Makenzie and another I just liked:



I recently started seeing several of these narrow ties - reminds me of when I wore them in the 60's. I picked up 2 that I liked for novelties sake:

 

[gato drawkini]

Hello fellow Loungers. Been trying to get on since 2013. But, finally getting around to actually getting on. Will post pieces from my collection once I figure out the system. Those two atomic ties are dynamite, Bugguy. Love the designs during that period. Have been watching the Perry Mason tv show recently. Am currently viewing the 1958 season. Lt. Tragg wears the older ties, but Mason, Burger and the other modern guys wear those late 50's ties. Nice pieces.

 

[gato drawkini]

I like that brown woven a lot. Of the batch that come closest to my taste. People tend to gravitate toward liking certain eras of ties and each era has its traits but as a rule when most people talk about vintage ties they are talking about the ties of the 40s and early 50s, what some people call the "Bold Look" because the ties tended to have much bigger and bolder graphics. Depending on the era the length and width of ties varied. Way back in this thread someone gave this guide to dating vintage ties which is helpful as an approximation but can't be used with absolute certainty because even within eras there were differences between tie makers:

1930s - tie length approx. 44", width approx. 3"
1940s - tie length approx. 47", width approx. 4 (or more in some drastic cases - these were so wide some people called them belly warmers)
1950s - tie length approx. 51", width approx. 3"
late 50s/early 60's - length approx. 53-54", width approx. 1 to 2" (also known as the skinny tie era, which has a brief resurgence in the 80s)
1970's - tie length approx. 55", width approx. 3 to 4"
Prior to the mid 1930s ties tended to be even shorter in length because the fashion was for high waisted pants and waistcoats or vests. When tied these ties typically came just to the bottom of the rib cage.

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Other era identifiers, besides length and width are the ways maker labels are attached, what they are made of, and linings. 30's ties (like the one on the left) typically had smaller repeating patterns, were unlined, and had their maker labels attached to the back side of the less wide end. 40s ties (like the one in the middle) were usually lined in white, had bold patterns, scenery or were hand painted. I'm not sure what most of them were made of but they have a silky feel (some of them may indeed be silk) that I can usually identify by touch after having rummaged through thousands of ties over the years. I don't even have any contemporary ties because they've gotten too monochromatic and boring for me but ties from the 70s on have their maker labels attached as a loop through which you put the narrower end of the tie through to keep it from roaming freely. 70s ties tended to be polyester and heavily padded (thick knots were the fashion at the time).

Sorry for the long treatise but it may help in identifying how old the ties you are looking at in thrift stores are. I also highly recommend the book "Fit To Be Tied: Vintage Ties of the Forties & Early 50s". It is colorful and informative and, though it's out of print, can be had for less than the price of many vintage ties.
https://tinyurl.com/y7ua8gwg

 

[gato drawkini]

I agree with your statement that sometimes it is hard to discern eras of neckties; for example, I am still trying to figure out 20's ties from mid to late 30's ties.

 

[Michael A]

Found 4 new woolies today.
DSCN1758 crop by Michael A2012, on Flickr
Nothing particularly old or great, but I'm still building my wool tie collection so I added them.
The left one is a Renleigh, the second is a Jonathon labeled 100% Wool and originally priced at $13, the third is L.S. Ayres and Co 100% Lambswool imported from Scotland and the last one is a Pendleton. They had a few nice late 50s skinnies too, but they were $2 apiece and I didn't have the cash on me. Might get them later if they are still around.

Michael

 

[Michael A]

Went back and snagged a few of the skinnies and a couple of others. Sadly someone beat me to a nice Swiss woven silk skinny and a J Garcia.
DSCN1784 by Michael A2012, on Flickr
DSCN1777 by Michael A2012, on Flickr
DSCN1782 by Michael A2012, on Flickr
DSCN1779 by Michael A2012, on Flickr
There is a modernish Brooks Brothers in there too, and a cotton Gant and another Scottish Lambswool. I didn't get a closeup of the third one from the left, but it's a bit of an oddity with almost equal width ends. The ends are a frayed finish, labeled only to a clothing store in Burlington IA.

Have a good evening,
Michael

 

[MondoFW]

Bowties seem rather unpopular on this thread...

 

[BobHufford]

Bowties seem rather unpopular on this thread...

They don't seem to go with my beard...

 

[Michael A]

A J. Garcia goes downtown today.
DSCN1798 by Michael A2012, on Flickr
DSCN1815 by Michael A2012, on Flickr
6-6-2018 Today's Clothes by Michael A2012, on Flickr
Have a great Wednesday,
Michael

 

[dh66]

Bowties seem rather unpopular on this thread...

It might take some digging to find it, but I believe there's a thread devoted only to bow ties around here somewhere. Or maybe I'm just remembering some that have been posted here before. Either way, I own a couple and have no objection to seeing more, so feel free to post 'em up if you've got any.

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[MondoFW]

A J. Garcia goes downtown today.
DSCN1798 by Michael A2012, on Flickr
DSCN1815 by Michael A2012, on Flickr
6-6-2018 Today's Clothes by Michael A2012, on Flickr
Have a great Wednesday,
Michael

Not even the tie I care for, it's the spectators! Have any problems wearing them yet? Vintage shoes are high risk, high reward.


Fellas, what do think of this deal: copped for $18, a 1930s deadstock Botany wool tie. Photos courtesy of ebay seller dapperhaberdasher, as i have not received it yet. This man has an amazing stock of 1920s-2010s ties, some are to die for.

Interestingly, it looks much like the silk brocade ties of the era, even though it's just a plebian wool one. I've been shifting from bold look late 40's stuff to these vibrant brocades and floral patterns. I need a healthy balance of ties that are suitable for more drab events, like this Botany, and silly kipper ties!

Happy tie hunting, sirs.

 

[Michael A]

Not even the tie I care for, it's the spectators! Have any problems wearing them yet? Vintage shoes are high risk, high reward.


Fellas, what do think of this deal: copped for $18, a 1930s deadstock Botany wool tie. Photos courtesy of ebay seller dapperhaberdasher, as i have not received it yet. This man has an amazing stock of 1920s-2010s ties, some are to die for. View attachment 121496 View attachment 121497 View attachment 121498
Interestingly, it looks much like the silk brocade ties of the era, even though it's just a plebian wool one. I've been shifting from bold look late 40's stuff to these vibrant brocades and floral patterns. I need a healthy balance of ties that are suitable for more drab events, like this Botany, and silly kipper ties!

Happy tie hunting, sirs.

No problems with the shoes Mondo and they are fitting fine now. Very comfortable. I had them out for a bicycle ride yesterday.

Nice looking Botany tie. I like vintage wool ties a lot.

Michael

 

[dh66]

Fellas, what do think of this deal......

Nice find! Seems like a pretty fair price, especially for the condition. I haven't purchased a new "new" necktie in over 20 years, but I imagine you'd pay that much or more for a decent one these days.


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[BobHufford]

Fellas, what do think of this deal: copped for $18, a 1930s deadstock Botany wool tie.

I think you did great! You probably can't buy a new tie at the Dollar Store for that price and it would not be nearly as cool.