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Don’t usually go for 100% polyester ties, but it has spurs...so...
Don’t usually go for 100% polyester ties, but it has spurs...so...
Good one!
Urban cowboy era, you reckon? Or earlier?
Ha! Your probably right. Best I remember, the urban cowboy era was around 79 or 80. I'd guess any kind of neckwear involved unbuttoned shirts and gold chains and maybe some chest hair. What throws me most about yours is the use of the word polyester. There was sure never a shortage of it, but in the late 50s and through the 60s usually they called it names like dacron or orlon or some other fancy patented name. The Tex Tan just calls it like it is.Thanks Dale! I'd guess a little earlier. Did those Urban Cowboy guys wear ties?
Ha! Your probably right. Best I remember, the urban cowboy era was around 79 or 80. I'd guess any kind of neckwear involved unbuttoned shirts and gold chains and maybe some chest hair. What throws me most about yours is the use of the word polyester. There was sure never a shortage of it, but in the late 50s and through the 60s usually they called it names like dacron or orlon or some other fancy patented name. The Tex Tan just calls it like it is.
It's an interesting one either way. The alternating ombre stripe and strips of spurs caught my eye. I did a little research on the label whilst drinking my coffee this morning. Best I can tell Tex Tan was a saddle maker that started out in Yoakum, Texas that at some point branched out into accessories. I found belts, wallets, and engraved silver cufflinks with their brand, as well as ties.
I like that brown woven a lot. Of the batch that come closest to my taste. People tend to gravitate toward liking certain eras of ties and each era has its traits but as a rule when most people talk about vintage ties they are talking about the ties of the 40s and early 50s, what some people call the "Bold Look" because the ties tended to have much bigger and bolder graphics. Depending on the era the length and width of ties varied. Way back in this thread someone gave this guide to dating vintage ties which is helpful as an approximation but can't be used with absolute certainty because even within eras there were differences between tie makers:
1930s - tie length approx. 44", width approx. 3"
1940s - tie length approx. 47", width approx. 4 (or more in some drastic cases - these were so wide some people called them belly warmers)
1950s - tie length approx. 51", width approx. 3"
late 50s/early 60's - length approx. 53-54", width approx. 1 to 2" (also known as the skinny tie era, which has a brief resurgence in the 80s)
1970's - tie length approx. 55", width approx. 3 to 4"
Prior to the mid 1930s ties tended to be even shorter in length because the fashion was for high waisted pants and waistcoats or vests. When tied these ties typically came just to the bottom of the rib cage.
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Other era identifiers, besides length and width are the ways maker labels are attached, what they are made of, and linings. 30's ties (like the one on the left) typically had smaller repeating patterns, were unlined, and had their maker labels attached to the back side of the less wide end. 40s ties (like the one in the middle) were usually lined in white, had bold patterns, scenery or were hand painted. I'm not sure what most of them were made of but they have a silky feel (some of them may indeed be silk) that I can usually identify by touch after having rummaged through thousands of ties over the years. I don't even have any contemporary ties because they've gotten too monochromatic and boring for me but ties from the 70s on have their maker labels attached as a loop through which you put the narrower end of the tie through to keep it from roaming freely. 70s ties tended to be polyester and heavily padded (thick knots were the fashion at the time).
Sorry for the long treatise but it may help in identifying how old the ties you are looking at in thrift stores are. I also highly recommend the book "Fit To Be Tied: Vintage Ties of the Forties & Early 50s". It is colorful and informative and, though it's out of print, can be had for less than the price of many vintage ties.
https://tinyurl.com/y7ua8gwg
Bowties seem rather unpopular on this thread...
It might take some digging to find it, but I believe there's a thread devoted only to bow ties around here somewhere. Or maybe I'm just remembering some that have been posted here before. Either way, I own a couple and have no objection to seeing more, so feel free to post 'em up if you've got any.Bowties seem rather unpopular on this thread...
Not even the tie I care for, it's the spectators! Have any problems wearing them yet? Vintage shoes are high risk, high reward.A J. Garcia goes downtown today.
DSCN1798 by Michael A2012, on Flickr
DSCN1815 by Michael A2012, on Flickr
6-6-2018 Today's Clothes by Michael A2012, on Flickr
Have a great Wednesday,
Michael
No problems with the shoes Mondo and they are fitting fine now. Very comfortable. I had them out for a bicycle ride yesterday.Not even the tie I care for, it's the spectators! Have any problems wearing them yet? Vintage shoes are high risk, high reward.
Fellas, what do think of this deal: copped for $18, a 1930s deadstock Botany wool tie. Photos courtesy of ebay seller dapperhaberdasher, as i have not received it yet. This man has an amazing stock of 1920s-2010s ties, some are to die for. View attachment 121496 View attachment 121497 View attachment 121498
Interestingly, it looks much like the silk brocade ties of the era, even though it's just a plebian wool one. I've been shifting from bold look late 40's stuff to these vibrant brocades and floral patterns. I need a healthy balance of ties that are suitable for more drab events, like this Botany, and silly kipper ties!
Happy tie hunting, sirs.
Fellas, what do think of this deal......
Fellas, what do think of this deal: copped for $18, a 1930s deadstock Botany wool tie.