Show us your TIES

[skyvue]

Ah, didn't know that was helpful. I'm wearing the tie today, but I'll try to find a minute to take the tie off and scan the back -- thanks.

 

[John in Covina]

Widebrim and I got to go to some thrift stores week or so back. I picked up a 1930's red patterned tie for fifty cents. When I saw it I knew it was perfect for Matt Deckard and gave it to him last Saturday.

 

[Widebrim]

Widebrim and I got to go to some thrift stores week or so back. I picked up a 1930's red patterned tie for fifty cents. When I saw it I knew it was perfect for Matt Deckard and gave it to him last Saturday.

Why didn't you sell it to him??

 

[skyvue]

As promised, here's the back of yesterday's tie, scanned, I might add, while I was still wearing it!

 

[Widebrim]

As promised, here's the back of yesterday's tie, scanned, I might add, while I was still wearing it!

Very, good. Now, two important questions: how wide, and how long? (Be sure not to measure while wearing. )

 

[John in Covina]

Why didn't you sell it to him??

Have you ever tried to get money out of that guy? By the time he finished I'd owe him money.

 

[skyvue]

Very, good. Now, two important questions: how wide, and how long? (Be sure not to measure while wearing. )

It's 3 3/8 inches wide; I'll check the length later tonight.

 

[skyvue]

The tie is 53 inches long.

 

[Widebrim]

The tie is 53 inches long.

Well, now we've got some real information to work with. The brocade reminds me of the 1930s, but the fold looks post-WWII. The width of the rear blade could be pre-WWII, but could also indicate '50s. The 33/8" width of the front blade is common with late-'20s ties, but could be found in other decades as well. Even though lining was sometimes found on '20s ties (thanks for that info, MarcC.), it became more common after WWII. I believe that the length, though, is the piece that puts it all together; ties 53" long were not found until the early-'50s, which is when I would say your tie was produced.

 

[skyvue]

Well, now we've got some real information to work with. The brocade reminds me of the 1930s, but the fold looks post-WWII. The width of the rear blade could be pre-WWII, but could also indicate '50s. The 33/8" width of the front blade is common with late-'20s ties, but could be found in other decades as well. Even though lining was sometimes found on '20s ties (thanks for that info, MarcC.), it became more common after WWII. I believe that the length, though, is the piece that puts it all together; ties 53" long were not found until the early-'50s, which is when I would say your tie was produced.

I was wearing it with a suit from 1954, so that's apropos, I guess.

 

[Widebrim]

I was wearing it with a suit from 1954, so that's apropos, I guess.

I would say so!

 

[Baron Kurtz]

I would have said early 50s on that last one from Skyvue. Earlier than that era, you don't often see Jacquard silk (raised weave creating a pattern within the fabric) with overprint. And in the early 50s it's incredibly common.

bk

 

[Widebrim]

^^We have a consensus. (And by the way, skyvue, it is a great-looking tie.)

 

[skyvue]

Thanks, guys.

Is there anywhere in the Lounge a compilation of helpful tie-dating tips (length, width, Baron's above-offered insight on the particular weave of that tie)? If not, would this be an apt thread for it, or should a new one be undertaken?

I'd love to see the same sort of info compiled for suits and sportscoats, trousers, etc., in a text file I could keep on my iPhone and use while vintage shopping.

 

[Widebrim]

^^There likely is such a thread for ties. If one of us doesn't find it, we can certainly create one!

 

[jamespowers]

^^There likely is such a thread for ties. If one of us doesn't find it, we can certainly create one!

I nominate you to create a thread. I am too lazy to look for an old one.

 

[John in Covina]

In general most tie postings do not have the dimensional information with a picture. You tend to see dimensions most often with better Ebay listings though.

 

[Feraud]

Ebay sellers will list tie dimensions but can be very wrong regarding the time period.

Most guys here post good pics of their ties, measurements, labels, etc. We accurately nail down a manufacturing period.

Now if someone wants to take on the job of collecting photos, average measurements, materials, patterns seen, etc. go for it! I will gladly contribute additional photos and accurate measurements of anything in my closet.
It would make for a great reference sticky.

 

[Widebrim]

I nominate you to create a thread. I am too lazy to look for an old one.

Thank you very much... But you can help...

 

[Widebrim]

Ebay sellers will list tie dimensions but can be very wrong regarding the time period.

Most guys here post good pics of their ties, measurements, labels, etc. We accurately nail down a manufacturing period.

Now if someone wants to take on the job of collecting photos, average measurements, materials, patterns seen, etc. go for it! I will gladly contribute additional photos and accurate measurements of anything in my closet.
It would make for a great reference sticky.

If you wish, I'll start collecting photos and data, Feraud, and I'm sure that you, James Powers, Marc Chevalier, Baron Kurtz, John in Covina, Quigley Brown and others can greatly add to it all. I'll contact you later by PM about the logistics.