Show us your SHOES !!!

[The Shooman]

 

[Short Balding Guy]

I was digging up info on dating a pair of shoes and stumbled into this Japanese Collectors website of vintage and modern shoes. I thought you folks might appreciate a gander at these unobtainable vintage and modern shoes.

A Jappanese Shoe collectors postings - http://centipede.web.fc2.com/ .

Best, Eric -

 

[Short Balding Guy]

Love the details on these shoes you posted. The stitching, the stitch density, neatly executed brogueing and of course the gorgeous lines.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Mazimilliano]

Gentlemen,

Feel blessed and very fortunate to have stumbled upon these true works of art: Edwin Clapp New Englanders... NOS in perfect condition (at the moment busy conditioning them for 2 weeks straight) anybody any idea from which period they are and what such a shoe would be worth nowadays?
Thanks in Advance

 

[MrDandy]

Gentlemen,

Feel blessed and very fortunate to have stumbled upon these true works of art: Edwin Clapp New Englanders... NOS in perfect condition (at the moment busy conditioning them for 2 weeks straight) anybody any idea from which period they are and what such a shoe would be worth nowadays?
Thanks in Advance

A lucky man, Fantastic pair, no doubt a perfect condition. What size are they?

 

[Mazimilliano]

A lucky man, Fantastic pair, no doubt a perfect condition. What size are they?

Exactly my size. My cobbler advised me not to wear them to often as they would probably would not be able to handle a lot of walking

 

[Mazimilliano]

not really planning to sell just curious what they would go for

 

[Short Balding Guy]

Gentlemen,

Feel blessed and very fortunate to have stumbled upon these true works of art: Edwin Clapp New Englanders... NOS in perfect condition (at the moment busy conditioning them for 2 weeks straight) anybody any idea from which period they are and what such a shoe would be worth nowadays?
Thanks in Advance

Grand 1940's pair of shoes. Value - would depend on owner's value of such vintage one of a kind shoes and condition. Uncertain as to the value. I do have my 1940 vintage shoes (wearable and minty) valued at $500 for insurance purposes. I chose that value as they are not ever able to be replaced. (This I believe is a conservative value as I have been advised to value them with a higher dollar.)

Vintage shoes of this age given the leather and stitching is good to go, can be gently worn. I have added rubber 1/2 soles to the fronts of the shoes to not wear the special soles and almost always replaced the heels as they were brittle or broke apart when wearing. Just my experience. I have posted many times in this thread pics of me wearing vintage shoes.

I googled them up and interestingly found these links:
https://muuseo.com/kazumatu981/items/1

https://www.ebth.com/items/427961-edwin-clapp-gentleman-s-brown-leather-new-englander-shoes


Congrats on the shoes. I hope you can bring them back to gentle wearing condition.

Best, Eric -

 

[Mazimilliano]

Grand 1940's pair of shoes. Value - would depend on owner's value of such vintage one of a kind shoes and condition. Uncertain as to the value. I do have my 1940 vintage shoes (wearable and minty) valued at $500 for insurance purposes. I chose that value as they are not ever able to be replaced. (This I believe is a conservative value as I have been advised to value them with a higher dollar.)

Vintage shoes of this age given the leather and stitching is good to go, can be gently worn. I have added rubber 1/2 soles to the fronts of the shoes to not wear the special soles and almost always replaced the heels as they were brittle or broke apart when wearing. Just my experience. I have posted many times in this thread pics of me wearing vintage shoes.

I googled them up and interestingly found these links:
https://muuseo.com/kazumatu981/items/1

https://www.ebth.com/items/427961-edwin-clapp-gentleman-s-brown-leather-new-englander-shoes


Congrats on the shoes. I hope you can bring them back to gentle wearing condition.

Best, Eric -

Eric,

Very much apreciated this is very helpfull! Ive seen your posts on the forum. I like when a man is passionate about his style. way to go and keep it going.

About 6 years ago ive been gifted a magnificent pair of Italian handmade black and white wingtips from Gravati. When i went to some high end cobbler to ask him what to do to preserve them he slapped some rubber soles under the original sole. At the time, i was like okay do your thing. but i did feel a difference in comfort after that. But when i moved to another city i got to know my new cobbler, who is very knowledgeable. the business has been in his family for generations. When he saw the rubber soles he was like.... what? how on earth can anybody do such a thing. he took a knife and without asking he pulled them right off. The comfort level was so different without those rubber soles. He said that its a crime to put these things under such beautiful shoes and completely makes them rigid. He was right. now almost 6 years later the original sole is still under there. Such is the quality of these shoes.

When i took the Clapps to him he just told me to condition them with this conditioner made of lanoline (woolfat) and carnabauwax for two week straight every evening. After those two weeks finish it off with the shoe cream and make sure to keep polishing them regularly and especially take care of places where the shoes bend while walking, like where the toe meets the shoe. and ofcourse he advised explicitly to wear the gently. (well were not gentlemen for nothing right? ;p) He didnt say nothing about the soles. I definitly think he would be able to resole these when then would get worn eventually. As far as the heels i will keep my eyes peeled for that. thanks for the tip!

By the way that first cobbler made a black wax stain on the virgin black leather as well. when i went back to notify him he just put some grey wax on top of that. (such Barbarism) at home it took my mom forever to get that stain out. But she did.

(love my moms)

 

[Mazimilliano]

Virgin White that is ofcourse....

 

[GHT]

Cool blue shoes. Blue shoes look so special paired with the correct stuff.

I have 2 pair of blue shoes. These are 1940's Elevator Shoes, https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/vintage-spectator-shoes.57145/page-30#post-2599222.

My second pair is a pair of blue and creme Eduard Meier spectators. These were made for Meier by Crocket and Jones.

Cheers for blue shoes!

In both hats & shoes we seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet. You make a good point Eric when you say: "Blue shoes look so special paired with the correct stuff." Much can be said about green. Tina gave me a surprise Christmas gift of the fabric that she will turn into trousers, it's a fabulous khaki. You can see it in the: "Bring me baggy trousers," thread. Those trousers, when finished, need that special pair of shoes, what the French describe as: "je ne sais quoi!" And I have found them, better still the trader has a premises less than an hour's drive away.

What it needs now is a hat like Bob Hufford's green Cavanagh to complete the outfit.

 

[The Shooman]

Bought some pairs of Silvano Lattanzi lately. I feel lucky to own them. Marvellous shoes.

I have always wanted to own Lattanzi, now l can sit back and enjoy my pairs. My grail pairs.

 

[The Shooman]

Here a family pic of my Lattanzi shoes. These boys are really worthy of a proper celebration. All of them are stunners in real life.

 

[GHT]

A fine collection indeed Shooman and I'm impressed with your shoe trees too. My shoe trees are a skeletal rack that fits in the bottom of my wardrobe.

Yesterday I ordered a bespoke pair of shoes. I asked Colin, who makes most of my shoes, if he could mix the pattern and green leather part of these shoes:

But instead of the grey fabric, could he use the cream leather that he used when he made my Oxfords?

He gave me a price and I sent off his payment. When it comes to waiting I'm like a kid a Christmas, the day just never arrives.

 

[The Shooman]

^ look forward to seeing your bespokes. I like how you want the white calf leather instead of material. Good choice.

 

[The Shooman]

I bought something very special from a bloke today. The Rolls Royce of shoes, the Lattanzi norvegese shoes. These are previously owned. Rare as hens teeth. Dream shoes.

Silvano Lattanzi norvegese shoos​

Norvegese can be done different ways​

Norvegese 1​

- 2 stitches
- no insole (so no dimpled insole)
- only a midsole and outsole
- out turned upper
- stitched midsole to outsole (stitch 1)
- stitched upper to midsole to outsole (stitch 2)
(my Santoni norvegese is made like that)

Norvegese 2​

- 3 stitches
- a dimpled insole
- out turned upper
- stitched midsole to outsole (stitch 1)
- stitched upper to midsole to outsole (stitch 2)
- stitched upper to insole (stitch 3)
(this Lattanzi norvegese is made like that)

 

[Short Balding Guy]

I bought something very special from a bloke today. The Rolls Royce of shoes, the Lattanzi norvegese shoes. These are previously owned. Rare as hens teeth. Dream shoes.

Silvano Lattanzi norvegese shoos​

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Norvegese can be done different ways​

Norvegese 1​

- 2 stitches
- no insole (so no dimpled insole)
- only a midsole and outsole
- out turned upper
- stitched midsole to outsole (stitch 1)
- stitched upper to midsole to outsole (stitch 2)
(my Santoni norvegese is made like that)

Norvegese 2​

- 3 stitches
- a dimpled insole
- out turned upper
- stitched midsole to outsole (stitch 1)
- stitched upper to midsole to outsole (stitch 2)
- stitched upper to insole (stitch 3)
(this Lattanzi norvegese is made like that)

Shooman; Congrats! Your shoe rack has shoes that many of us dream of. These shoes appear minty. The stitching is very cool to see. I did not know about the different types of Norvegese. Thanks for the inclusion in your post.

The stitching on the apron is dynamite and would keep my eyes entertained. The heel stitching and construction work is excellent.

The short apron is a stye that I learned to appreciate. I wore out a pair of St.Crispins Tassels (2 sole replacements, heel work before their demise) that had the short apron. I picked up some Allen Edmond and the St.Crispins tassels at the same time. Immediately I prefered the Allen Edmonds. As the Allen Edmonds showed more wear, streteched out and soles wore quickly the St. Crispins became the "tassel loafer." I wore them hard and learned to really enjoy the short apron. Creases barely showed on the vamp. My shoe choice has changed since the 80's, but I would recommend them in a heartbeat.

Wear them proudly and in good health, Eric -

 

[Short Balding Guy]

I did pick-up a couple pairs of shoes from the cobbler a week ago. I had a new pair of grain longwings getting sole protectors. They are superb shoes that will get a lot of casual wear.

A new pair of heels for a pair of Florsheim Vintage 1940's Alligator Crocodile Norwegians. The sole and heels show a lot of wear and the hide needs LOTS of conditioning. The new heels were all I decided to go with. I am uncertain whether the hide will take conditioning and reach anything but a gentle wearing condition.

I have Saphire reptile conditioner soaking into the hide and correct sized wood trees doing their magic correcting the shoes distorted shape. I have hopes.

Yesterday I wore a pair of green suede longwings for errands. The "gunboat longwings" are, IMO, grand casual shoes.

Cheers to shoe folks, Eric -

 

[The Shooman]

Shooman; Congrats! Your shoe rack has shoes that many of us dream of.

It took many decades to get to this point. For many years they were my dream shoes too. Even when l was a kid l always dreamed of owning great shoes. I feel extremely lucky to own them.

My main shoes worn 90% of the time are:

1). Lattanzi (stunning and by far the best)
2). Vass

Nothing compares to a handmade shoe.

These shoes appear minty. The stitching is very cool to see. I did not know about the different types of Norvegese. Thanks for the inclusion in your post.

Love the norvegese stitching. Very special shoes. These are Lattanzi's best of the best, and he is famous for these heavy rope shoes. It is Lattanzi's Rolls Royce. The `bentivegna' (haircut shoo) is also his top piece. Lattanzi does his norvegese far better than almost all makers because he uses a small stitch to secure and waterproof that out turned upper to the midsole (most makers cut corners on that). Lattanzi also does the hand stitched outsole which is completely superior and different to a machine stitched outsole. With Lattanzi you get no corners cut, and you get the most luxurious ride because everything is hand constructed. His shoes are a delight to wear, and it is difficult to wear anything else. His shoes are pure art.

The short apron is a stye that I learned to appreciate.

Yes, it will take time for me to appreciate too.

I wore out a pair of St.Crispins Tassels (2 sole replacements, heel work before their demise) that had the short apron. I picked up some Allen Edmond and the St.Crispins tassels at the same time. Immediately I prefered the Allen Edmonds. As the Allen Edmonds showed more wear, streteched out and soles wore quickly the St. Crispins became the "tassel loafer." I wore them hard and learned to really enjoy the short apron. Creases barely showed on the vamp. My shoe choice has changed since the 80's, but I would recommend them in a heartbeat.

Wear them proudly and in good health, Eric -

Good to hear all your thoughts and read about your experiences. Owning wonderful is a real treat as you would know.

 

[The Shooman]

I did pick-up a couple pairs of shoes from the cobbler a week ago. I had a new pair of grain longwings getting sole protectors. They are superb shoes that will get a lot of casual wear.

A new pair of heels for a pair of Florsheim Vintage 1940's Alligator Crocodile Norwegians. The sole and heels show a lot of wear and the hide needs LOTS of conditioning. The new heels were all I decided to go with. I am uncertain whether the hide will take conditioning and reach anything but a gentle wearing condition.

I have Saphire reptile conditioner soaking into the hide and correct sized wood trees doing their magic correcting the shoes distorted shape. I have hopes.

Yesterday I wore a pair of green suede longwings for errands. The "gunboat longwings" are, IMO, grand casual shoes.

Cheers to shoe folks, Eric -

Love both of those gunboat longwings, wonderful shoes.