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Alright, I can't be the only one who saw all the NOS Selco hats on eBay. They were listed as the seller's grandfather's stock from a defunct New York hat store. These were mostly Hückel / Tonak / Selentino. The one I bought was purported to be from the 1950s and was new in the box. As they had one in 7 5/8 I bit. Hey, I'm also supporting four Nigerian princes.

The hat arrived and it's a bit of a mystery. The brim is approximately 2 5/8" and it is indeed a new open crown hat. I don't normally go for black fedoras (Homburgs are a different story), but I kind of like this mystery hat.

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Now because it's me, there must be some issue and indeed there is. This is a tight fitting 7 5/8 and now I have to decide if I should pass it on or if I can stretch it just a bit. I'm holding off on creasing it until I decide its fate.

If anyone out there knows anything about these hats I'd love to hear from you.


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Alright, I can't be the only one who saw all the NOS Selco hats on eBay. They were listed as the seller's grandfather's stock from a defunct New York hat store. These were mostly Hückel / Tonak / Selentino. The one I bought was purported to be from the 1950s and was new in the box. As they had one in 7 5/8 I bit. Hey, I'm also supporting four Nigerian princes.

The hat arrived and it's a bit of a mystery. The brim is approximately 2 5/8" and it is indeed a new open crown hat. I don't normally go for black fedoras (Homburgs are a different story), but I kind of like this mystery hat.

8522c1ec290374dfde00c1b86a24f8dc.jpg
f5074f31e72e93d778aff912dc80d019.jpg
a2ebe206bc31270c6409599a058c2c41.jpg
53ec8fefb661be520fb3d48964e3758f.jpg
de81cc703198c91eb41ebac71902dfb5.jpg
3e351309e6e42acfc537222dff10c764.jpg
312a7f5980e8a1d46cf02463b3ea7f54.jpg
43cecc94db8fb6f545eb6b853a30d60e.jpg
41f866b27fd985396534ab916ec00c72.jpg
db35e899da9c109d2c9f1bcb4f94eb48.jpg


Now because it's me, there must be some issue and indeed there is. This is a tight fitting 7 5/8 and now I have to decide if I should pass it on or if I can stretch it just a bit. I'm holding off on creasing it until I decide its fate.

If anyone out there knows anything about these hats I'd love to hear from you.


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Nice looking lid. I dig the ribbon work.
If it's one size or under too small I'd go for the stretch.
 
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Alright, I can't be the only one who saw all the NOS Selco hats on eBay. They were listed as the seller's grandfather's stock from a defunct New York hat store. These were mostly Hückel / Tonak / Selentino. The one I bought was purported to be from the 1950s and was new in the box. As they had one in 7 5/8 I bit. Hey, I'm also supporting four Nigerian princes.

The hat arrived and it's a bit of a mystery. The brim is approximately 2 5/8" and it is indeed a new open crown hat. I don't normally go for black fedoras (Homburgs are a different story), but I kind of like this mystery hat.

8522c1ec290374dfde00c1b86a24f8dc.jpg
f5074f31e72e93d778aff912dc80d019.jpg
a2ebe206bc31270c6409599a058c2c41.jpg
53ec8fefb661be520fb3d48964e3758f.jpg
de81cc703198c91eb41ebac71902dfb5.jpg
3e351309e6e42acfc537222dff10c764.jpg
312a7f5980e8a1d46cf02463b3ea7f54.jpg
43cecc94db8fb6f545eb6b853a30d60e.jpg
41f866b27fd985396534ab916ec00c72.jpg
db35e899da9c109d2c9f1bcb4f94eb48.jpg


Now because it's me, there must be some issue and indeed there is. This is a tight fitting 7 5/8 and now I have to decide if I should pass it on or if I can stretch it just a bit. I'm holding off on creasing it until I decide its fate.

If anyone out there knows anything about these hats I'd love to hear from you.


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Cool Beans! A quick google search of the complany brings up:
Selco Hatters Inc is a privately held company in Brooklyn, NY and is a Single Location business.

Categorized under Men's and Boys' Hats. Our records show it was established in 1950 and incorporated in New York. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of 130000 and employs a staff of approximately 1.


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Alright, I can't be the only one who saw all the NOS Selco hats on eBay. They were listed as the seller's grandfather's stock from a defunct New York hat store. These were mostly Hückel / Tonak / Selentino. The one I bought was purported to be from the 1950s and was new in the box. As they had one in 7 5/8 I bit. Hey, I'm also supporting four Nigerian princes.

The hat arrived and it's a bit of a mystery. The brim is approximately 2 5/8" and it is indeed a new open crown hat. I don't normally go for black fedoras (Homburgs are a different story), but I kind of like this mystery hat.

8522c1ec290374dfde00c1b86a24f8dc.jpg
f5074f31e72e93d778aff912dc80d019.jpg
a2ebe206bc31270c6409599a058c2c41.jpg
53ec8fefb661be520fb3d48964e3758f.jpg
de81cc703198c91eb41ebac71902dfb5.jpg
3e351309e6e42acfc537222dff10c764.jpg
312a7f5980e8a1d46cf02463b3ea7f54.jpg
43cecc94db8fb6f545eb6b853a30d60e.jpg
41f866b27fd985396534ab916ec00c72.jpg
db35e899da9c109d2c9f1bcb4f94eb48.jpg


Now because it's me, there must be some issue and indeed there is. This is a tight fitting 7 5/8 and now I have to decide if I should pass it on or if I can stretch it just a bit. I'm holding off on creasing it until I decide its fate.

If anyone out there knows anything about these hats I'd love to hear from you.


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Selco was (is -> Selentino) associated with Tonak and the logo is based on Hückel's but this doesn't look (felt, construction, components) like any of my late 1950s Tonaks.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/255-czech-hat-find-may-2016/?hl=tonak

I would also expect to see made in Czechoslovakia on it somewhere if made by Tonak. Here is a 1970s? Selco Hückel made by Tonak (not my hat) that is clearly marked as "Made in Czechoslovakia Especially for SELCO".

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/6-johann-hückel´s-söhne-hückel-hutfabrik-weilheim/#entry162

Can you tell if it's Beaver fur? Tonak doesn't produce Beaver Felt only Rabbit and Hare based Felts.

My interest in Tonak is only up to the early 1950s when they still made near Hückel like Felt and Hats.

Besdor (Steven) if he sees this might be able to tell us more.
 
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Selco was associated with Tonak and the logo is based on Hückel's but this doesn't look (felt, construction, components) like any of my late 1950s Tonaks.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/255-czech-hat-find-may-2016/?hl=tonak

I would also expect to see made in Czechoslovakia on it somewhere if made by Tonak. Here is a 1970s? Selco Hückel made by Tonak (not my hat) that is clearly marked as "Made in Czechoslovakia Especially for SELCO".

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/6-johann-hückel´s-söhne-hückel-hutfabrik-weilheim/#entry162

Can you tell if it's Beaver fur? Tonak doesn't produce Beaver Felt only Rabbit and Hare based Felts.

My interest in Tonak is only up to the early 1950s when they still made near Hückel like Felt and Hats.

Besdor (Steven) if he sees this might be able to tell us more.

Thanks steve. I appreciate all your earlier help in trying to identify this hat.
 
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As it previous told Steve @mayserwegener, the leather sweatband suffered from dry rot and crumbled upon inspection. I have already boxed up this hat and will send it off to VS for a new sweat and also a new ribbon in something other than black. I'll also ask Art to confirm that it is a beaver felt hat. The deteriorated sweat was a bummer as I wanted to retain all the stampings and markings. However, I bought the hat for the shape and style and I'm alright not knowing exactly what it is. Still, if anyone has information to share I'd love to know more.
 

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