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EinarsM

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Nora-Hüte, measures about 57.5 cm, probably early 1950s late 1940s. The condition of this hat is near NOS condition. The darker gun metal gray Velour is really fantastic same with the hat form. The hat appears to be made by the same company that made my Stefan Esders "Velour" which also has no company mark and no paper label. Nora-Hüte appears to be the Vienna hat shop that it was made for but I couldn't find anything about them.

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Open Crown

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That looks great! I never worked with velour. Sure fits winter. :)
 

moontheloon

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Black hats are a pain in the ass to brush ...sometimes the brush leaves more than it takes off

I’ve found that a black piece of felt works worlds better on black hats ...

I got the idea when I received an untouched 1930s Stetson Standard Quality that came with a piece of black felt made for this very purpose

Brushes work fine on black... felt works better



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Location
Nederland
Nora-Hüte, measures about 57.5 cm, probably early 1950s late 1940s. The condition of this hat is near NOS condition. The darker gun metal gray Velour is really fantastic same with the hat form. The hat appears to be made by the same company that made my Stefan Esders "Velour" which also has no company mark and no paper label. Nora-Hüte appears to be the Vienna hat shop that it was made for but I couldn't find anything about them.

38681438994_1d634d9439_b.jpg


39389609711_6591edf488_b.jpg


38511760675_0190e7362f_b.jpg


27612519409_6cd623bf39_b.jpg


39389793141_9e460cbe47_b.jpg


Open Crown

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25519629038_da1ce88b3c_b.jpg


Natural Light

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Look s great, Steve. I can almost feel that felt.
 
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Nederland
Black hats are a pain in the ass to brush ...sometimes the brush leaves more than it takes off

I’ve found that a black piece of felt works worlds better on black hats ...

I got the idea when I received an untouched 1930s Stetson Standard Quality that came with a piece of black felt made for this very purpose

Brushes work fine on black... felt works better



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That's a great idea. Have to try that sometime.
 
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How do you maintain that felt?
If it's old Velour I usually vacuum first. You need to use a stiffer brush (bristle 1 to 2 inches) if the Velour is matted. In some cases you need to first brush + steam in the opposite direction of the nap and then with the nap. If the nap is worn there isn't anything you can do. I usually finish with a long (4 inch bristle) soft brush + steam with nap. For maintenance I usually just use the long soft brush + light steam with the nap. Modern Velour is not like most of the 1950s and older Austrian and German Velour Hats I post here. They were Hot Wet Brushed and had superior Hare fur content + production.
 
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EinarsM

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If it's old Velour I usually vacuum first. You need to use a stiffer brush (bristle 1 to 2 inches) if the Velour is matted. In some cases you need to first brush + steam in the opposite direction of the nap and then with the nap. If the nap is worn there isn't anything you can do. I usually finish with a long (4 inch bristle) soft brush + steam with nap. For maintenance I usually just use the long soft brush + light steam with the nap. Modern Velour is not like most of the 1950s and older Austrian and German Velour Hats I post here. They were Hot Wet Brushed and had superior Hare fur content + production.

That's amazing. Thank you for the detailed explanation. It's the details that make a big difference.
 

65 Classic

Practically Family
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Sanford
Black hats are a pain in the ass to brush ...sometimes the brush leaves more than it takes off

I’ve found that a black piece of felt works worlds better on black hats ...

I got the idea when I received an untouched 1930s Stetson Standard Quality that came with a piece of black felt made for this very purpose

Brushes work fine on black... felt works better



ae4576ddf4437f3518eb3be9d3db3d91.jpg

f120e1ee40c48414ee648b450ee8f009.jpg

673e19e0f27badcbbed2670afefaa285.jpg

Thanks for the tip. I find that almost anything in black is pretty painful up there.
 
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That's amazing. Thank you for the detailed explanation. It's the details that make a big difference.
I would recommend reading this article "Hair Velour / Real (Echter) Velour / Prime (Prima) Velour Fabrikation von Damen- und Herren- Filzhüten, Der Deustchen Hutmacher Zeitung (1933)" from my website (see link below). The English translation from German is very good. It will give you idea what Real (Echter) / Prima Velour is and what we have today (no longer Hot Wet Brushed + suspect fur content). The best way to work on Velour is to have a Touring machine which would spin the hat. The Touring machine is mentioned in the article (make sure to check the external links in the article). I have a lot of German and Austrian vintage (pre WWII) Hat Industry information on my site that should be interesting to hat makers (at least IMO). If you have questions you can send me a PM.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/216-hair-velour-real-echter-velour-prime-prima-velour-fabrikation-von-damen-und-herren-filzhüten-der-deustchen-hutmacher-zeitung-1933/
 
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EinarsM

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I would recommend reading this article "Hair Velour / Real (Echter) Velour / Prime (Prima) Velour Fabrikation von Damen- und Herren- Filzhüten, Der Deustchen Hutmacher Zeitung (1933)" from my website (see link below). The English translation from German is very good. It will give you idea what Real (Echter) / Prima Velour is and what we have today (no longer Hot Wet Brushed + suspect fur content). The best way to work on Velour is to have a Touring machine which would spin the hat. The Touring machine is mentioned in the article (make sure to check the external links in the article). I have a lot of German and Austrian vintage (pre WWII) Hat Industry information on my site that should be interesting to hat makers (at least IMO). If you have questions you can send me a PM.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/216-hair-velour-real-echter-velour-prime-prima-velour-fabrikation-von-damen-und-herren-filzhüten-der-deustchen-hutmacher-zeitung-1933/

Thank you! Was looking to get to know more about velour. This is perfect. Wish my German was up to date, translation works fine. Happy New year!
 

DOGMAN

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Black hats are a pain in the ass to brush ...sometimes the brush leaves more than it takes off

I’ve found that a black piece of felt works worlds better on black hats ...

I got the idea when I received an untouched 1930s Stetson Standard Quality that came with a piece of black felt made for this very purpose

Brushes work fine on black... felt works better



ae4576ddf4437f3518eb3be9d3db3d91.jpg

f120e1ee40c48414ee648b450ee8f009.jpg

673e19e0f27badcbbed2670afefaa285.jpg
Very cool idea.I'm going to give it a try.Thanks.
 

RJR

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