Johann Hückel´s Söhne (pre 1940)

[Garrett]

This hat is for sale

 

[mayserwegener]

J. Hückel´s Söhne, Display Cards, 10 cm x 4 cm, possibly mid to later 1920s. Most likely the cards were placed on or near the hats.

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[Mean Eyed Matt]

Here the long promised Hückel (I'm sorry, Steve, for taking so long):
JHS Sigma - Seal Velour - grey with black ribbon - late 30s (?) - size 5 (57)
This is the best/finest velour I've ever held in my hands!

open crown

inside: unusual lining in purple and white (unfortunately a bit worn out)

grey sweatband with golden print

Hückel Logo on the lining

Logo of the seller: "Ortmann - Spandau" (since 1920 part of Berlin)
(at least until 1941 at the same address)

labels (unfortunately, a piece of foam sticks over it, which cannot be removed without damaging the rest)

 

[the_imperialist]

Exceptional hat Matt! And thanks for all the wonderful photos - the finish on the velour looks unbelievable. I also love the design of the liner. Can't wait to see what insight Steve can offer.

 

[mayserwegener]

Here the long promised Hückel (I'm sorry, Steve, for taking so long):
JHS Sigma - Seal Velour - grey with black ribbon - late 30s (?) - size 5 (57)
This is the best/finest velour I've ever held in my hands!

open crown

inside: unusual lining in purple and white (unfortunately a bit worn out)

grey sweatband with golden print

Hückel Logo on the lining

Logo of the seller: "Ortmann - Spandau" (since 1920 part of Berlin)
(at least until 1941 at the same address)

labels (unfortunately, a piece of foam sticks over it, which cannot be removed without damaging the rest)

Matt, Thank you posting here. This is my favorite thread . JHS "Sigma" "Seal Velour" is an amazing Velour. I think you are about right on the dating (could be a bit earlier).

 

[mayserwegener]

J. Hückel´s Söhne, Celluloid Hat Plates, 10 cm x 3.5 cm, possibly 1920s.

J. Hückel´s Söhne, Metal Hat Plates, 7 cm x 2 cm, possibly 1920s.

J. Hückel´s Söhne, Display Cards, 10 cm x 4 cm, possibly mid to later 1920s.

 

[feldkappe]

I am looking for a pre 1918 Austrian hat. I would prefer a Homburg style but a fedora or bowler would work. This would not be for wearing, so size and condition does not matter. Maker does not matter either as long as it is Austrian (or Hungarian) pre 1918. I have found a couple top hats, but that won't work for what I need.

Can anyone point me in a good direction to search? Thanks in advance!!

 

[Garrett]

A tall order to be sure. There are a few of us on here who have hats with your criteria. May I ask what its for?

 

[Garrett]

I am looking for a pre 1918 Austrian hat. I would prefer a Homburg style but a fedora or bowler would work. This would not be for wearing, so size and condition does not matter. Maker does not matter either as long as it is Austrian (or Hungarian) pre 1918. I have found a couple top hats, but that won't work for what I need.

Can anyone point me in a good direction to search? Thanks in advance!!

This could work:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/johann-hückel´s-söhne-pre-1940.48472/page-14#post-2557106

 

[feldkappe]

Yes, I think that hat could work well. While I am a lover of all hats, my primary collection is Austro-Hungarian military cloth headgear. What I would like to do is create a display of a muster hat. After joining the service and before departure for training, it was commonplace to display your patriotism by adorning your hat and jacket with several Musterungbuschen. I would like to put together a display of such a hat using all original materials.

 

[feldkappe]

It might also be of interest to tell everyone that most major Austrian hat manufacturers like Hückels, Habig and Pichler either held held government contracts to produce field caps, or did a thriving business on privately purchased caps.
Here is an example of a Hückels made cap as shown by the J.H.S. ink stamp.

 

[mayserwegener]

It might also be of interest to tell everyone that most major Austrian hat manufacturers like Hückels, Habig and Pichler either held held government contracts to produce field caps, or did a thriving business on privately purchased caps.
Here is an example of a Hückels made cap as shown by the J.H.S. ink stamp.

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Does it have a paper label behind the sweatband? What time period is this from? I know JHS switched to war time production during WWII. Normally they produced Fur Felt (and not Wool) Soft and Stiff Felt Hats.

 

[mayserwegener]

Yes, I think that hat could work well. While I am a lover of all hats, my primary collection is Austro-Hungarian military cloth headgear. What I would like to do is create a display of a muster hat. After joining the service and before departure for training, it was commonplace to display your patriotism by adorning your hat and jacket with several Musterungbuschen. I would like to put together a display of such a hat using all original materials.
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These are Trachten style hats. Please make this discussion on the German - Austrian thread. This thread is for JHS pre 1940 only.

 

[feldkappe]

This cap was made and used between 1916 and 1918. Honestly, of the hundreds of caps I have seen, this is the only one with a J.H.S. stamp. They may not have produced that much. Unfortunately this cap is in a collection in Italy, so I have no way of knowing about a label behind the sweatband.

 

[mayserwegener]

This cap was made and used between 1916 and 1918. Honestly, of the hundreds of caps I have seen, this is the only one with a J.H.S. stamp. They may not have produced that much. Unfortunately this cap is in a collection in Italy, so I have no way of knowing about a label behind the sweatband.

I haven't looked into WWI production. It's possible JHS were a conduit and not the producer. As I mentioned JHS made Fur Felt Soft and Stiff Hats.

 

[mayserwegener]

J. Hückel ´s Söhne "Alpha" "Seal Velour", French Point Size 5, Brim 2 1/4 inches, Crown Open 6 inches possibly mid 1930s.

 

[mayserwegener]

My friend that is the senior portrait engraver at the U.S. BPG printed these on an Intaglio press (the stamp was for Letter press) yesterday so really nice. They are for the JHS Tonak 220 Year Anniversary celebration September 6th and 7th in Novy Jicin, Czech Republic. I will be flying out this evening. If you click on the photo it might enlarge.

Here is the stamp we used which is early 1900s prior to WWI.

 

[Garrett]

My friend that is the senior portrait engraver at the U.S. BPG printed these on an Intaglio press (the stamp was for Letter press) yesterday so really nice. They are for the JHS Tonak 220 Year Anniversary celebration September 6th and 7th in Novy Jicin, Czech Republic. I will be flying out this evening. If you click on the photo it might enlarge.

Here is the stamp we used which is early 1900s prior to WWI.

Looking forward to all of the great photos. Safe travels, Steve!

 

[mayserwegener]

Looking forward to all of the great photos. Safe travels, Steve!

Garrett, I will try my best. Unfortunately I don't think they will allow me take photos in the factory. It's a large operation from fur cutting to finished hat.

 

[Garrett]

I remember you mentioning Tonak's tendency to be paranoid. Are you going to visit the museum again?