nick123
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Arguments among jacket enthusiasts, when you look at the big picture, are silly. Come on people, love each other.
Arguments among jacket enthusiasts, when you look at the big picture, are silly. Come on people, love each other.
I agree with that. I don't agree with vendors using a forum to slam their business rivals- they can do that on their own webpages, surely?
......... We share the same rare interest. It's something to be celebrated.
Vendors are a different story. It gets gnarly when you have a business to represent/look after. But for the "fans", disagreement is healthy when a passion is discussed, but I truly hope the personal poison doesn't go too far. We share the same rare interest. It's something to be celebrated.
I've come to the conclusion that management of the VLJ has decided that in order to have any daily traffic anymore they must put up with the personalities of the few regular posters that now dominate even though they are apt to run some others off with their bias's. They have mainly one professional WW2 military jacket collector, expert leather patch maker, and those who occasionally stop by to dis Aero (when Aero is mentioned) that those few wholeheartedly agree with and will promote. Every time they think Aero, their mindset automatically visualize A2s, that they consider not quite up to par, and civi utility jackets are a sub thought, if thought of at all.
So, if a newby is run off and not tough enough to struggle through possible admonishment by those few, then that's just too bad. Kind of a catch 22. The VLJ can't lose those few or allow their unhappiness much because, well, that's all that's left. Even if you are a longtime member, and now reluctant to post pics or aren't in agreement, when you do speak up too much against the grain, that constitutes an instigator or, at least, only participating to make argument. The VLJ was once a more friendly forum self moderated by the members who, together, would most usually attempt to keep it that way. Unfortunately, now it has become something else and, more than likely, is now going to stay that way to the joy of the new controlling few.
HD
The one interesting thing that came out of that thread was a point made by someone other than myself about a link between Thedi Leathers and BK. Is there anyone in a position to either deny or confirm said rumour ?
That 'A-2 patches' guy is a real laugh- according to him painting patches and making caps is 'serving our country' on a par with being an actual fighter pilot. And these people accuse others of having an 'ego problem':crazy:
I've come to the conclusion that management of the VLJ has decided that in order to have any daily traffic anymore they must put up with the personalities of the few regular posters that now dominate even though they are apt to run some others off with their bias's. They have mainly one professional WW2 military jacket collector, expert leather patch maker, and those who occasionally stop by to dis Aero (when Aero is mentioned) that those few wholeheartedly agree with and will promote. Every time they think Aero, their mindset automatically visualize A2s, that they consider not quite up to par, and civi utility jackets are a sub thought, if thought of at all.
Hmm...
Van,
You asked us to control Platon and Bill Kelso, we gave him his own section as you suggested because he was hijacking all threads into BK ones. So we do listen.
Hmm...
Van,
You asked us to control Platon and Bill Kelso, we gave him his own section as you suggested because he was hijacking all threads into BK ones. So we do listen.
What I found rather sad was that during the rather vitriolic Aero Threads 1 and 2 argument and testosterone took over and they didn't do the usual kind and traditional thing and wish a happy birthday to members whose birthdays are listed on the day at the bottom of the home page - I noticed this as mine was on the 22nd.
OK, John
That is true. I'm not trying to dis the VLJ. It was started by a good guy...and is moderated by those of the same caliber. It's just a shame that some participants now fail to realize or care about how their forum comes across to others. Those who have no hesitancy to accuse, attempt to even ruin an established reputation and stifle those who dare oppose those antics. For all their cries for unbridled freedom not to be censored, they are yet, very content to censure others with crude hostility and ridicule. In my previous post, I was attempting to explain, possibly, how that is now happening on a continual basis...especially if Aero is mentioned.
HD
OK, John
That is true. I'm not trying to dis the VLJ. It was started by a good guy...and is moderated by those of the same caliber. It's just a shame that some participants now fail to realize or care about how their forum comes across to others. HD
Another one of those legendary HD quotes ..... I'm sure Paddy Middleton shares your sentiment HD !