Han Solo's leather jacket in SW7

[Monitor]

The man has gotten older, what's pathetic about it? I'm just infinitely thankful Ford is willing to reprise the role. Han Solo is Harrison Ford.

I wish I would look this good when I'm his age.

Hell, I wish I would look this good now...

 

[plain old dave]

Time to be a slightly OT iconoclast.

JJ Abrams took one of the most thoughtful and intellectual franchises in the history of entertainment, Star Trek, and turned it into not much more than a run-of-the-mill summer shoot 'em up blockbuster.

Compare the Abrams attempts to TOS, DS9, Voyager or TNG; "Spock's" 'Not so much' as compared to the allegory on Vietnam that was "Let This Be Your Last Battlefield", the first interracial kiss on network television, CAPT Picard's insistence to the Carassian that there were, in fact THREE lights "I have been, and ever shall be, your friend", or any number of the countless high dramatic points that have characterized Star Trek. IMO no comparison, and the Abrams Star Wars effort, again based on the two previews, looks like more of the action-laden same.

 

[Monitor]

CAPT Picard's insistence to the Carassian that there were, in fact THREE lights

...that was good television.

"Five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit."

Possibly the last thing on TV with integrity.

 

[ProteinNerd]

turned it into not much more than a run-of-the-mill summer shoot 'em up blockbuster.

By all accounts thats exactly what the studio wanted from him....they thought it would appeal to the masses more (and bring in more money). Cant really blame a guy for doing the job he was hired to do.

 

[Seb Lucas]

Ford is gray enough for both of them. Seriously, how old is he now? 70? Still acting in the role that made him famous nearly 40 years ago? A bit pathetic, isn't it?

While it may be pathetic that they're still making Star Wars films (I didn't enjoy them even back in 1977) I don't think you can knock Harrison Ford for this. He and the other principles are playing the roles as aged people many years and adventures later. In itself that's kind of cool.

 

[Big J]

While it may be pathetic that they're still making Star Wars films (I didn't enjoy them even back in 1977) I don't think you can knock Harrison Ford for this. He and the other principles are playing the roles as aged people many years and adventures later. In itself that's kind of cool.

Do you know what, I'm kind of glad to see some of these actors around now. I'm thinking Stallone, Ford, Gibson. It's interesting to see these guys who were male 'role models' and 'hearthrobs' and see how they've aged. Gives me some idea of what I should be aiming for (or away from!). My kids love Stallone in all the Expendables films- they've never seen him young- and they say that he's a 'cool old man', and they're kind of right. I'd rather be like that than old and gray and bent over double with a stick.

 

[ProteinNerd]

I'd rather be like Cruise than Stallone. Sadly Stallone has abused the crap out of steroids and HGH and it shows. Cruise on the other hand....that dude is ageless. He's 50 and looks better than most 30 year olds...thats what I'm aiming for lol

 

[Seb Lucas]

I'd rather be like Cruise than Stallone. Sadly Stallone has abused the crap out of steroids and HGH and it shows. Cruise on the other hand....that dude is ageless. He's 50 and looks better than most 30 year olds...thats what I'm aiming for lol

Stallone seems like a fun guy. Cruise may look youngish I'd say all the damage is on the inside.

 

[Sloan1874]

Stallone shares his mother's enthusiasm for plastic surgery too...

 

[mendelboaz]

While it may be pathetic that they're still making Star Wars films (I didn't enjoy them even back in 1977)

Please, sir, I kindly ask you to GTFO!

 

[Monitor]

Please, sir, I kindly ask you to GTFO!

lol

But to each their own. I for example cannot stand Goodfellas, film that many consider to be an absolute masterpiece. All I see in it is two hours of Joe Pesci pretending to be angry and Robert De Niro not having any role whatsoever, and then the credits start to roll. Perhaps there's a moral to the story somewhere in it, but then again, I'm don't think there's even a story somewhere in it.

 

[mendelboaz]

lol

But to each their own. I for example cannot stand Goodfellas, film that many consider to be an absolute masterpiece. All I see in it is two hours of Joe Pesci pretending to be angry and Robert De Niro not having any role whatsoever, and then the credits start to roll. Perhaps there's a moral to the story somewhere in it, but then again, I'm don't think there's even a story somewhere in it.

Gotta love Joe Pesci, though.

 

[Justhandguns]

Well, for Stallone, you really have to admire his motivation to work these days.

[video=youtube;l-UyKkxNynI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-UyKkxNynI[/video]

 

[Justhandguns]

And former governor, also working hard in the UK.

[video=youtube;z6OfYWsKZ_4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6OfYWsKZ_4[/video]

 

[I would go out tonight]

Well, for Stallone, you really have to admire his motivation to work these days.

Sylvester and Arnold must be taking advice from Gene Simmons, that lovable rock'n'roll millionaire.

"People who say that money is the root of all evil are morons, a lack of money is the root of all evil."

 

[Edward]

Is that other guy wearing a grizzly?

No... he's whst they skin to make a grizzly!

 

[Frunobulax]

Time to be a slightly OT iconoclast.

JJ Abrams took one of the most thoughtful and intellectual franchises in the history of entertainment, Star Trek, and turned it into not much more than a run-of-the-mill summer shoot 'em up blockbuster.

Compare the Abrams attempts to TOS, DS9, Voyager or TNG; "Spock's" 'Not so much' as compared to the allegory on Vietnam that was "Let This Be Your Last Battlefield", the first interracial kiss on network television, CAPT Picard's insistence to the Carassian that there were, in fact THREE lights "I have been, and ever shall be, your friend", or any number of the countless high dramatic points that have characterized Star Trek. IMO no comparison, and the Abrams Star Wars effort, again based on the two previews, looks like more of the action-laden same.

Except Star wars was always just a shoot 'em up Space Opera. There is no deep meanings in Star Wars that couldn't be found in a Very Special Episode of Blossom.

 

[Edward]

Didn't hear that bit from Lucas but yeah, spoken like a true businessman.

Though I don't think this new film could possibly be worse than the the last two episodes, so yeah, at least something beside the new Mad Max to look forward to.

Meh. Sequels can *always* get worse. Episode Two was even worse than Episode one, despite that seeming impossible. Didn't even bother with III. Coild have seen it in a cinema five minutes' walk from my front door, for free, but.... meh. The prequels and special editions killed Star Wars deader than dead for me, so I won't be giving it any money. Might watch Ford pee away his career when it hits tv, though. Sad shame for him, it's not like he needs the money.

 

[mendelboaz]

Meh. Sequels can *always* get worse. Episode Two was even worse than Episode one, despite that seeming impossible. Didn't even bother with III. Coild have seen it in a cinema five minutes' walk from my front door, for free, but.... meh. The prequels and special editions killed Star Wars deader than dead for me, so I won't be giving it any money. Might watch Ford pee away his career when it hits tv, though. Sad shame for him, it's not like he needs the money.

Episode III was amazing. Shame you didn't see it. I do agree Episodes I & II were a lot of galaxies away from the Original Trilogy.

 

[Stand By]

Some great comments here.
I have to say that I feel sorry for youngsters today who are seeing the SW movies fresh - they've no sense of appreciation for what it is they're seeing.
Back then, as i said, I was 10 and loved good sci-fi and was brought up on a delicious diet of Stingray, Thunderbirds, Captain Scarlet, Star Trek, UFO, Space 1999 and Dr Who.
So when Star Wars came out, it blew everything else away in one showing … and suddenly, I saw Dr Who as being rather poor in a way I hadn't before and it didn't satisfy me like it had. I still liked it for a couple more years, but … I loved Star Wars. Who wouldn't?!
And of course, Star Wars spawned an entire new raft of space-related movies to feed the appetite of the public - so along came everything from Close Encounters to Battlestar Galactica (presented in Sense-surround! Just meaning REALLY FRICKIN' LOUD!), Moonraker (which was moved up over For Your Eyes Only to cash in on the fervour for space-related films. I saw it 4 times at the cinema! It remains my favourite Bond film to this day), Alien, the Star Trek movies, Battle Beyond The Stars and all the way down to the bottom of the barrel where you'd find The Humanoid (and I went to the cinema to see it all on Saturday matinees).
But it set a new and distinct bar and felt really, really special.

Fast forward to today - and I was recently at my pal's house watching Pacific Rim on Blu-Ray in his home cinema room via his projector and I was hugely entertained. It was amazing - incredible effects and watching Hong Kong or Tokyo or wherever it was being demolished as these amazing machines fight these monsters. It looked sooo real - no sign of CGI or green screen anymore - no fuzzy outline on anything. It looked sharp and real and was amazing and exciting. I was completely drawn in and found myself caring about these machines and their crews and willing them to succeed.
But today, it's just another film -and won't win any awards or even be remembered as anything groundbreaking - it's just a popcorn movie - even though it is a spectacle and a visual feast and very cleverly done and beautifully executed. It's the same with Edge of Tomorrow - what an epic ! But - it's just another great Tom Cruise film.
They turn out so many spectacular films these days that they no longer feel spectacular.
So I'm really glad that I saw Star Wars (and then Empire and Jedi!) when I did and could feel the jaw-dropping awe that it inspired.