German & Austrian Hutmachers

[steur]

I'll keep at it. One more.
Mylord fedora in grey (Schiefer - slate- if I'm reading the label correctly). Great colour with a blueish hue. Size 56, with a bound brim at 6cm and the crown 10cm at the pinch. The same ribbon treatment as the Chisnall, but a different maker. The basting stitches are still in there, which is always nice. Don't know who the maker might be. Liner still stitched in, so not a late production.

 

[mayserwegener]

I actually ran into several of these east-German hats this friday. I'm seeing more and more of these lately. Did not bring any, but took a few snaps to give an idea.

antilope:
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antilope II:
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Juwel:
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Stefan, Thank you taking the photos. I think they are bit later.

I actually ran into several of these east-German hats this friday. I'm seeing more and more of these lately. Did not bring any, but took a few snaps to give an idea.

antilope:
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antilope II:
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Juwel:
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Stefan, Thank you for taking the photos!

 

[mayserwegener]

Did not bring any of the VEB/Luckenwalde/Gubener hats, but did not leave empty handed. First off:
Lodenfrey, black, size 58. Bound brim at 6cm, crown 10,5cm at the pinch. Lodenfrey is a well-known menswear business in Munich and are still in business today. This was made for them and I think it's certain it was done by P&C Habig of Vienna.
First the pictures.
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And here's a picture of a hat-label by P&C Habig. Looks like they just cut off the Habig name on the left.
This would make this hat date back from 1959. The shape it took of its own accord using steam.
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Stefan, Super! I haven't seen a P. & C. Habig Wien non-branded hat like this before. Yes it's probably from 1959.

 

[steur]

Stefan, Thank you taking the photos. I think they are bit later.

Stefan, Thank you for taking the photos!

Steve, thanks. I think you're right. These did not look or feel the same quality I saw on the ones you posted.

 

[steur]

Stefan, Super! I haven't seen a P. & C. Habig Wien non-branded hat like this before. Yes it's probably from 1959.

Steve, thank you. It was the shape it took after steaming along with the typed numbers that started me thinking. This shape one of my Habig hats has too.

 

[mayserwegener]

I did promise more German hats, so here goes. This one had been around the block (and probably was run over and stabbed on the way), but it had to come. Why? Well, because it's a nutria you see. Very rare to see nutria hats, so no matter what, this one was going to be in the collection. The stabbing is quite literal by the way, because there's a small cut in the brim, but I will not point out where. It took some doing, but I got it where I wanted it to be (the sweatband bow is back in order too).
Chisnall (sounds English doesn't it?) nutria fedora in grey (zomo on the label). Made in Germany, so in the right thread. Don't know who the maker might be. Maybe Steve will recognize the mark on the label. Chamois finish, underwelt edge with the brim at a breath short of 6cm and crown 10cm at the pinch. It used to have some kind of pork pie crease in it but I quickly talked it out of that. Liner still stitched in, so I'm guessing late fifties.

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Stefan, I come across these Chisnall Hats every so often. The trademark on the paper label is W. & G. Schuchard Giessen (Germany). They were wholesalers so probably didn't make the hat. They have a connection to Lauterbach (Germany) so it could be Wegener.

There is a good website on the company.

http://www.schuchard.de/index.html

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[mayserwegener]

Well, let's post another one.
P&C Habig homburg in brown. This one was part of a set of three with another Habig homburg in black (didn't buy that one) and the GB Borsalino fu Lazzaro homburg (posted earlier). According to the vendor part of the same auction. Makes sense. The black one was from 1952 and the GB Borsalino is from 1935. My guess is that this one is in between (it's lost its label); forties to early fifties.
Size 56, brim at 6cm and crown 10cm at the pinch. Unlined with a cloth crown patch. This is the "before" shoot. Most of the stains on the ribbon came out. Made expressly for Eduard Pelger, The Hague, which is still in business today. Fits me like a custom.
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Stefan, Great find! The color combination and form are fantastic!

 

[mayserwegener]

I'll keep at it. One more.
Mylord fedora in grey (Schiefer - slate- if I'm reading the label correctly). Great colour with a blueish hue. Size 56, with a bound brim at 6cm and the crown 10cm at the pinch. The same ribbon treatment as the Chisnall, but a different maker. The basting stitches are still in there, which is always nice. Don't know who the maker might be. Liner still stitched in, so not a late production.

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Stefan, I really like this one. I am not sure who made it either. My guess would be mid to late 1950s.

 

[steur]

Stefan, I come across these Chisnall Hats ever so often. The trademark on the paper label is W. & G. Schuchard Giessen (Germany). They were wholesalers so probably didn't make the hat. They have a connection to Lauterbach (Germany) so it could be Wegener.

There is a good website on the company.

http://www.schuchard.de/index.html

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.schuchard.de/index.html&edit-text=&act=url

Stefan, Great find! The color combination and form are fantastic!

Stefan, I really like this one. I am not sure who made it either. My guess would be mid to late 1950s.

Steve, thanks. This additional information is great! Some very nice German and Austrian hats in this haul. Looks like we're not at the bottom of the well any time soon.

 

[mayserwegener]

There are plenty more to be found.

 

[mayserwegener]

Hückel Weilheim "Soleil", Hückel's Clipper, size 57cm, possibly late 1950s early 1960s.

 

[steur]

Hückel Weilheim "Soleil", Hückel's Clipper, size 57cm, possibly late 1950s early 1960s.

It's a cool looking felt. It does remind me of the offerings by Ottmar Reich in the same period, which I find are fairly stiff little hats. Can't remember handling one of these before. How do they compare, Steve?

 

[mayserwegener]

Stefan, The felt is very soft and not stiff. It has a Short Crown so tough to make side dents. The hat was machine formed.

 

[mayserwegener]

Mayser Miniature Hat Cartons, made by Zeitler - Karton, Murnau / Oberbayern. Last produced about 10 years ago. They are really well made and the dimensions (L x W x H) are approximately 4 1/4 x 4 x 2 1/4 inches.

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[drmaxtejeda]

Hückel Weilheim "Soleil", Hückel's Clipper, size 57cm, possibly late 1950s early 1960s.

That is a beautiful hat, and wonderful-looking felt.

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[mayserwegener]

That is a beautiful hat, and wonderful-looking felt.

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Max, Thanks!

 

[steur]

Mayser Miniature Hat Cartons, made by Zeitler - Karton, Murnau / Oberbayern. Last produced about 10 years ago. They are really well made and the dimensions (L x W x H) are approximately 4 1/4 x 4 x 2 1/4 inches.

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It stings a bit to see these actually. I had the chance to buy one of these once (for next to nothing too) and I declined. Still kick myself.

 

[steur]

To think I actually left this behind. Came to my senses soon enough to rescue it a few days later though. I remembered seeing one of these on Steve's website. They come in several variations.
Hückel chamois in hgrau (that would be hellgrau - lightgrey). Size 56, with the bound brim at 6,5cm and the crown at just short of 10cm at the pinch. This one works both brim up (Bob Roberts style) or brim down (everybody else). Gorgeous felt on this hat and high quality finishing.
I don't appreciate feathers (or pins for that matter) on my hats in general, but this one will stay: tiny blue jay feather.

 

[steur]

part II

 

[mayserwegener]

Stefan, This one is great. I really like the brim stitching effect. I have a couple a different shade gray ones with a similar blue jay feather so the feathers might have come from Hückel Weilheim.

Hückel Weilheim "Chevreau"

Hückel Weilheim "Chamois"