G.B.Borsalino Fu Lazzaro & C. <1936

[Panadora]

Great that the hat arrived safely. Sorry that you are feeling under the weather. Is there a link (with more details) to hat you just posted?

The picture functions as a link

 

[mayserwegener]

Thanks! It looks later (not < 1936) to me so made at Borsalino Giuseppe e Fratello "Antica Casa". Borsalino Giuseppe e Fratello "Antica Casa" continued to use this brand name.

 

[crabman]

The hat finally showed up at work today. Unfortunately I'v just caught a cold and staying home for a few days.

Wonder who won (and lost) this one?
Edit: http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=291690723398

I just won this auction this past Sunday, a beautiful hat. Thanks to the person who discovered how to date the hat using the serial numbers! Now I can date the hat!.....crabman

 

[Daniele Tanto]

Crabman,
I'm sorry to inform you that Borsalino (Giuseppe and fu Lazzaro, both the historical hatters of Alessandria) has no date or a system to identify the date of hats from the serial numbers.
Only after the sold of the Borsalino in the 80' there was an indication on the paper label to see the production year.
Take some photos of the paper label and post them, it will be more easy to indentify (more or less) the date of your Borsalino.

 

[Panadora]

... Does it have Zenit on the sweatband? More details if / when possible.

No zenith marking! And the only internal label looks like this

Really nice felt, but unfortunately the sweat have dried completely out and is broken 2-3" along the stiches

 

[mayserwegener]

Sorry to hear about the sweatband. Can you post photos of the entire hat? I think this hat is later (when I am not sure but probably not < 1936) too based on the auction photos. Borsalino Giuseppe e Fratello "Antica Casa" continued to use this brand name. It's too complicated!

 

[alanfgag]

Yes... post war - 1950s.

 

[Panadora]

Thanks to the both of you

Sorry to hear about the sweatband. Can you post photos of the entire hat?

I didn't take other pictures of the hat today, sorry!
For me it's just another brown hat for my pile of useless hats now

 

[Tonio]

This post gave me the urge to want a GB Borsalino Fu Lazzaro hat, and I couldn't pass this one up! Being shipped from Milan, Italy. Here's some seller photos:

 

[alanfgag]

Wonderful!

 

[mikespens]

Wow!

 

[Miamibruno]

Thanks, RLK, for the informative spread on Borsalino. I loved the catalogue.

 

[mayserwegener]

This post gave me the urge to want a GB Borsalino Fu Lazzaro hat, and I couldn't pass this one up! Being shipped from Milan, Italy. Here's some seller photos:

Fantastic! Looking forward to its arrival.

 

[moehawk]

The USPS dropped this off yesterday. I had to pretty it up just a little for it's debut.

The sweatband stamp and liner:

The tag:

When I looked at the seller's pics, I noticed someone had scrawled a name on the sweatband with a permanent marker. It was near the retailer stamp, so I paid it little attenion. I have had good results removing marker from sweats with Coleman's on a q-tip, so I had just begun the process when I realized who's name was.written.

Yup, that's the hat Rick Blaine posted a pic of in the eBay thread last week with a Merle Haggatd signature. I was so focused on the beautiful hat that I didn't notice the name, just the blaspemy of someone taking a Sharpie to such a magnificent lid. I stopped the removal before too much of the autograph was gone.
The stats:
2 1/4" brim, with beautiful stitched edge treatment.
6" open crown.
94 grams total weight, felt so soft it had a mark from the seam of the liner and tip. Ghost crease is being persistent, but not impossible.
A snug 5 1/2 punti, responded well to a wee nudge up.
Sweatband in great shape.

I will certainly be holding onto this one with a kung- FU grip!

 

[moontheloon]

beautiful Moe

 

[mayserwegener]

Congrats! I am pretty sure it's an original one. The Bow is similar to this 1929 Echter Borsalino (Borsalino Giuseppe e Fratello "Antica Casa") of mine.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionz...c/50-borsalino-german-market/page-2#entry1198

 

[moehawk]

Thanks moon and mayser!
I was surprised that it sat for nearly a week with a relativrly low BIN before I bought it.

 

[mayserwegener]

Most people have no idea.

 

[moehawk]

Most people have no idea.

Yup! And I'm happy for it!
oh, and I fixed the bow. The leading edge was unattached when I got it, I think it originally was just like the one you posted. A quick adjustment and tack stitches later, all good!

 

[1mach1]

The USPS dropped this off yesterday. I had to pretty it up just a little for it's debut.
When I looked at the seller's pics, I noticed someone had scrawled a name on the sweatband with a permanent marker. It was near the retailer stamp, so I paid it little attenion. I have had good results removing marker from sweats with Coleman's on a q-tip, so I had just begun the process when I realized who's name was.written.

Yup, that's the hat Rick Blaine posted a pic of in the eBay thread last week with a Merle Haggatd signature. I was so focused on the beautiful hat that I didn't notice the name, just the blaspemy of someone taking a Sharpie to such a magnificent lid. I stopped the removal before too much of the autograph was gone.
The stats:
2 1/4" brim, with beautiful stitched edge treatment.
6" open crown.
94 grams total weight, felt so soft it had a mark from the seam of the liner and tip. Ghost crease is being persistent, but not impossible.
A snug 5 1/2 punti, responded well to a wee nudge up.
Sweatband in great shape.

I will certainly be holding onto this one with a kung- FU grip!

Great score, Moe!