Fit check - Rough Out Western Jacket by RMC

[Canuck Panda]

Maybe this is a Canada thing because returning something from the US to a reputable British seller gets you your customs and such refunded too. Indeed the shippers usually handle that for the vendor.

I have bought and returned from Aero, Trickers, and End Clothing. Aero was exchange so no extra duties but I had to pay the return shipping which is very expensive. Trickers was the best, I paid nothing and got a replacement, they paid for everything, this was before Brexit not sure what they’re like now. End Clothing was same as Aero. I’ve also bought from Farfetch they handled all the logistics and I also paid nothing but their fashion.

RMC UK prices are way overpriced even compared to other western dealers. And they don’t give you back duties either according to their return page, but they do take returns which the Japanese RMC dealers will not.

 

[Aloysius]

I have bought and returned from Aero, Trickers, and End Clothing. Aero was exchange so no extra duties but I had to pay the return shipping which is very expensive. Trickers was the best, I paid nothing and got a replacement, they paid for everything, this was before Brexit not sure what they’re like now. End Clothing was same as Aero. I’ve also bought from Farfetch they handled all the logistics and I also paid nothing but their fashion.

RMC UK prices are way overpriced even compared to other western dealers. And they don’t give you back duties either according to their return page, but they do take returns which the Japanese RMC dealers will not.

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Ah I see. Honestly not surprised at all that RMC UK would be scummy like this.

Our UK members have been complaining about them for years.

 

[WolfofStateSt]

Ah I see. Honestly not surprised at all that RMC UK would be scummy like this.

Our UK members have been complaining about them for years.

Yeah but it beats the alternative of keeping a 1400 dollar jacket I’ll never where.

If I buy another jacket from RMC UK will I have to pay customs again on the new coat?

 

[MrProper]

Yeah but it beats the alternative of keeping a 1400 dollar jacket I’ll never where.

If I buy another jacket from RMC UK will I have to pay customs again on the new coat?

It was like that for me in Europe.

 

[Aloysius]

Yeah but it beats the alternative of keeping a 1400 dollar jacket I’ll never where.

If I buy another jacket from RMC UK will I have to pay customs again on the new coat?

I would assume so considering that that would be a new import in its own right and RMC UK isn’t bothering to facilitate reclaiming duties. You pay customs on your import to the government, usually via the shipper.

Maybe contact the shipper who delivered it to see if they could do something when you return.

 

[BloodEagle]

Yes, you will 100% pay taxes on a new replacement purchase from RMC - since the store closed they dont seem to be much more than an box-shifter with a ridiculous upcharge if you buy in the UK

 

[WolfofStateSt]

Yes, you will 100% pay taxes on a new replacement purchase from RMC - since the store closed, they dont seem to be much more than an box-shifter with a ridiculous upcharge if you buy in the UK

I’ll then try to find a McCoys reseller here in the States and just take the refund from McCoys UK instead of exchanging. I did PayPal in four on it, so I can cancel the remaining payments once they green-light me for a refund.

 

[Aloysius]

Yes, you will 100% pay taxes on a new replacement purchase from RMC - since the store closed they dont seem to be much more than an box-shifter with a ridiculous upcharge if you buy in the UK

Wow, I handwaved some of the upcharge based on the costs of Central London shopfront real estate, staff, etc but that's just ridiculous.

I’ll then try to find a McCoys reseller here in the States and just take the refund from McCoys UK instead of exchanging. I did PayPal in four on it, so I can cancel the remaining payments once they green-light me for a refund.

IMO if you're going that route I'd recommend going for the jacket type from someone else. Like I said, your build is basically the opposite of any RTW Japanese pattern.

 

[BloodEagle]

Wow, I handwaved some of the upcharge based on the costs of Central London shopfront real estate, staff, etc but that's just ridiculous.

Indeed - I visited the London store(s) on a few occasions and you could definiitely see where (some of) that extra was going - the staff were always extremely helpful and accomodating, the shelves were stacked with fantastic things, and it was a genuinely great shopping experience. Not so any more, it is basically run from a unit in Leeds at present as far as I can tell.

 

[WolfofStateSt]

Wow, I handwaved some of the upcharge based on the costs of Central London shopfront real estate, staff, etc but that's just ridiculous.



IMO if you're going that route I'd recommend going for the jacket type from someone else. Like I said, your build is basically the opposite of any RTW Japanese pattern.

I’m really thinking Aero now!

 

[WolfofStateSt]

Would Aero work with my body type, tho?

Good news: RMC got back to me and sent me the paperwork to return the jacket.

Aero says there is a 12-week wait, but that's fine because it is already 20 degrees where I live, and that is a fall coat so that it will be ready for Fall ‘25.

 

[Aloysius]

Would Aero work with my body type, tho?

Not sure what you mean. Your body type is only unusual by Japanese standards.

 

[WolfofStateSt]

Not sure what you mean. Your body type is only unusual by Japanese standards.

Tall and slender?

I want to confirm that an Aero would suit my build better than an RMC.

I am leaving my RMC purist era now that I’ve learned that more expensive doesn't necessarily equal better.

 

[Aloysius]

Tall and slender?

Look at @MrProper. He's slender and (even) taller. Aero's unofficial spokesmodel. (He also owns jackets from a ton of other makers.)

 

[Canuck Panda]

Tall and slender you may find the square shoulder cut (and long) from the likes of 4speed/IRon heart better, JL slim fit type III. With the Aero or the Vanson or the McCoy one from two years ago I showed you, you’ll need more length and the upper sleeve may be on the baggier side. I’ll give you a pic of mine tomorrow.

 

[WolfofStateSt]

Tall and slender you may find the square shoulder cut (and long) from the likes of 4speed/IRon heart better, JL slim fit type III. With the Aero or the Vanson or the McCoy one from two years ago I showed you, you’ll need more length and the upper sleeve may be on the baggier side. I’ll give you a pic of mine tomorrow.

Awesome thanks!

 

[Canuck Panda]

Awesome thanks!

My suggestion is to find a retailer that has both the Iron heart trucker and the Y2 trucker. And be up front you will be returning one (or worst case both). The Iron heart is the same fit as my Johnson Type III, and the Y2 will be the same fit but shorter length. You can get the IH one size down to fit the length and it will be a bit tighter in the torso but should still work because of suede, and the Y2 in the regular chest size so there is enough length but the torso will be a bit boxier.

And if both doesn't work, then consider custom. Always OTR first to find out what works and what doesn't.

The regular fit will be too baggy (especially in the sleeves) for slim and tall guys. If you downsize then other things may not work. The regular fit is good for stocky guys. Slim fit is good for slender guys. Medium build guys can do either but have to mess around with length or bottom opening tapering.

Regular fit vs Slim fit, round vs square shoulders

The most difference is in the armhole and the sleeve. Regular sleeve size 42 actually has baggier upper sleeve than slim fit sleeve size 43, two totally different cuts for two totally different body fit.

 

[Tom71]

My suggestion is to find a retailer that has both the Iron heart trucker and the Y2 trucker. And be up front you will be returning one (or worst case both). The Iron heart is the same fit as my Johnson Type III, and the Y2 will be the same fit but shorter length. You can get the IH one size down to fit the length and it will be a bit tighter in the torso but should still work because of suede, and the Y2 in the regular chest size so there is enough length but the torso will be a bit boxier.

And if both doesn't work, then consider custom. Always OTR first to find out what works and what doesn't.

The regular fit will be too baggy (especially in the sleeves) for slim and tall guys. If you downsize then other things may not work. The regular fit is good for stocky guys. Slim fit is good for slender guys. Medium build guys can do either but have to mess around with length or bottom opening tapering.

Regular fit vs Slim fit, round vs square shoulders
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The most difference is in the armhole and the sleeve. Regular sleeve size 42 actually has baggier upper sleeve than slim fit sleeve size 43, two totally different cuts for two totally different body fit.
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Not to derail, but: the Aero looks the bee‘s knees! This one with snap buttons could easily be ‚The Perfect Trucker‘ for me.
Is the hide Cream Vicenza or Natural Horse?

 

[Canuck Panda]

Not to derail, but: the Aero looks the bee‘s knees! This one with snap buttons could easily be ‚The Perfect Trucker‘ for me.
Is the hide Cream Vicenza or Natural Horse?

Natural raw horse (Comipel).

Aero Type 3 are good jackets no doubt. I had two and now just this one. But I really think the IH/Y'2 cutting in the right size will fit the OP better. I am going off his original fit pics of his RMC jacket. Since the RMC jacket is very similar to the Aero cutting already, if he goes Aero, he'd have to size down and add length and it may or may not work but is non returnable at that point. Going off rack would still be my first suggestion to him, and try a different pattern than the RMC one.

 

[BloodEagle]

Worth pointing out that the OP's RMC trucker is their new version of it, there is an older version which has a slimmer cut and longer back length and more like the 60s Levis Big E rough out truckers in colour and pattern. They still come up large - Ive got one in a size 42 whereas Im usually at least a 44.