Good to see you posting again, Garrett. That's a great find. Interesting to see that d'Orsay curl open up towards the front and the back. Something we still see on much later French made hats.19th Century
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Louis Mountbatten
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Too bad it is so darn small, though. 6-3/4 is about the size of a ten-year-old boy! But, man does that look in great shape. I have a few of those late 1800stall bowlers and none are in such nice shape as that. Very nice.
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Just Daniel
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Garrett
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Additional liner photographs
Rmccamey
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Garrett, It's a real beauty! Thank you for posting the photos.
Garrett
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Thanks, Steve. Hoping to find out more behind the sweatband.
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Garrett, Looking for to your update.
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I don’t know why I bought this hat, but it just spoke to me. I bet it cleans up nice.
What do you think: made in Europe under license or is it a US made Stetson? The liner looks odd to me.
What do you think: made in Europe under license or is it a US made Stetson? The liner looks odd to me.
Louis Mountbatten
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I bet it was made in Europe. Germany or UK probably. Let us know when it comes in, won't you?
Just Daniel
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Perhaps the liner is not original?
The sweatband crest and size tag look US Stetson.
The sweatband crest and size tag look US Stetson.
drmaxtejeda
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I couldn't resist the price on this Anton Pichler, and it is a 7 3/8.
Who can tell me about it? @steur ? @alanfgag ? @mayserwegener ?
@Steve1857 ?
Anyone?
Who can tell me about it? @steur ? @alanfgag ? @mayserwegener ?
@Steve1857 ?
Anyone?
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Max, Anton Pichler was a famous hat factory in Graz, Austria. His brother Josef Pichler (& Söhne) also had a hat factory in Graz. You can read more about them here.
https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/25-anton-pichler-hutfabrik-josef-pichler-söhne/
I saw this hat on US Ebay (Garrett sent me a tip) but I have no idea about "Consolidated Hat Works" mark. It appears to be American so maybe "Consolidated Hat Works" were Jobbers. I will have to see if I can find anything on them. I am not sure if the components are by Anton Pichler Graz but the Velour Hat Body appears to be. The Velour looks to be of high quality. Unfortunately I sold an old Anton Pichler Graz Stiff Felt that might of had a paper label (not sure why I didn't take a photo) and the one I still have doesn't have one. I don't have any WWII or older Soft Felts. The paper label is similar to this 1950s Anton Pichler Graz Soft Felt but I think it might be older.
https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/25-anton-pichler-hutfabrik-josef-pichler-söhne/?do=findComment&comment=1158
When it arrives maybe you can check around for more clues. It would be interesting to see the entire paper label.
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drmaxtejeda
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Thank you, Steve!
drmaxtejeda
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This seller reminded me of Jim's Whippet collage
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As opposed to D'oh! felt, which is a factory second.
Just Daniel
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It is actually a very interesting hat - assuming the seller changed the listing:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165025713547
It is the doe felt all the same.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165025713547
It is the doe felt all the same.
HuangCheng
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That is an eye-opener!!View attachment 352170 Here’s an eBay victory. Just took around 6 months to make it so.
I bought this BIN size 7 mid 50s Stetson 7XCB for $100 from a lady here in Georgia.
Her pics were blurry and small. didn’t know it was so cratered with alligator bites. When it arrived I was very disappointed and could’ve sent it back, but I decided this thing might be worth all the trouble it’d take to sand the felt back to a smooth finish, plus, make the size 7 stretch to 7 1/4.
Lots of work! Had to take it completely apart, use an orbital sander on the felt till the holes disappeared while being extra careful to insure even felt thickness, clean the liner, block the hat body(several times) condition and stretch the leather sweat, buy new vintage ribbon for binding and hatband and sew it all back together. Might sound easy, but please believe me, it ain’t.
Was it worth it?
Yep.
Here’s before pics—after complete tear down. View attachment 352168 View attachment 352169 View attachment 352171
First time I’ve used an electric sander for the pounce, but it worked beautifully. Only thing, though, the sand job caused felt splotching, so I tried something new and left this all Beaver felt outside in the sun for 2 weeks so the sun might bleach it to an even color. IT WORKED. Mostly.
Still can see some, but it isn’t bad enough to bother me.
Beaver don’t shrink, not even in the sun, but it also don’t stretch much, either.
The brim was 2 3/4” but now it’s 2 5/8”.
I tried hard not to lose that eighth inch, but it wouldn’t happen. At least the crown didn’t lose any height and actually a bit taller than it was, because I detest short crowns. Rather lose an eighth of brim.
Yes, the felt ended up being thin, but definitely not too thin, and much less rigid. I’m very happy with this hat!
More after pics: View attachment 352173 View attachment 352174 View attachment 352175
I need a matching wind trolley. The one that was on it was bitten in two, so anyone wanting to donate a pristine wind button robbed from one of their mint ORs I’d appreciate it.
BTW, Is there a TFL hat restoration thread somewhere? View attachment 352176 View attachment 352172
How did you make it from 7 to 7 1/4 and keep the sweat band so clean?
Sometimes I reblock the hat for a taller crown(I love tall crown too),
But never seen a magic like 7 to 7 1/4, is that a new 1/4 sweat band or?
You always bring me suprise.
Huang
Nice find, Brent. All the licensed Stetsons said so on the sweatband right under the Stetson logo, so this one must be an American (or Canadian) made one.