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Thanks, Sunny! Great to know I can put the mystery to rest.
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That braidwork looks significantly older than the 50s to me. More like the 30s.Laura Chase said:I'm really puzzled by this garment, how is it supposed to be worn? The auction says it's 50's - what do you ladies think? Other than that it says it's crépe de chine and the length is 154 cm./60 inches.
bronzewolf said:Got really lucky with these two wonderful coats for winter, one is a vibrant olive green coat, with a pink lining and the other a black one with a large shawl collar and ribbon trim, absolutely fit beautifully, very happy, said to be both 1940's, not sure though.
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Odalisque said:I love these! Especially the green one. Gorgeous finds, even if they aren't from the 40's.
bronzewolf said:what do you date them at?
I can't get the photos to load on this computer! I'll try to check later.Laura Chase said:
Sunny said:I can't get the photos to load on this computer! I'll try to check later.
I'm guessing it doesn't fasten at the hips because nothing fastened at the hips from 1930-1960 (more or less). Virtually everything had a natural waist emphasis, or if waistless, either fitted with princess seams or was completely straight. (And that was almost exclusively coats and jackets.) An unstructured almost trained but not quite. Negligees could and would trail the ground gracefully, but not that much; and if a trained effect is wanted, it'd be longer and more shaped than that. It's really more intuition than anything scientific. But I would have to see photos or catalog examples from the period that show hip-fastening negligees before I'd be convinced!
Sunny said:That braidwork looks significantly older than the 50s to me. More like the 30s.
It's some type of negligee. My first guess was the 70s, since I've seen a lot of floaty pseudo-Grecian stuff from then; but the braidwork doesn't go with that at all. The colors look funny, too, like it was gold-colored braid that has tarnished. I'm guessing it's supposed to fasten just in front at the waist, which would make the bodice blouse over.
Lady Day said:I think it was an early teen's suit (12-15 years old), because it was like a 21" waist. Whatever But it was tough to pass up. I just hope it went to a good home.
Miss 1929 said:Nope, I think it's a 30s suit. Smaller scale shoulders and shorter peplum than a 40s suit, the pockets are totally 30s, the color, scale of checks, gores in skirt... all look 30s to me. Definitely not the teens.
That waist isn't all that tiny, lots of girls have waists that small without corseting. Not me unfortunately, or I would have to have that suit, it's swell.
Sunny said:I guessed in the Purchases thread that the green was late 40s and the black early 50s. The green could easily be from the early 50s as well; they didn't all have circle skirts! Just from the style they are definitely not pre-1945. The labels, too, look more 50s than 40s.