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Thanks Robert! I was thinking of using a #52 block so I‘ll need to adjust my expectations.
When I first started hatting I was so surprised at how much felt gets used up on a square shouldered, no taper block. You could block it on the #52 and probably end up with about the same brim width as you have now. But it is a bitch to get it straight and usually end up with a slightly dimensional brim. As the felt gets used up unequally. If I understood mathematics it probably is explainable.
 

The Shoe

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I have plenty of hair. But my impression of the situation is that stubble on your head is not as fashionable as stubble on your face. So, you need a razor and shaving cream (or a floating-head electric razor) to maintain the baldness. The thing you show is for cutting hair and you will only need to do that once.

I use a Wilkinson hydro 5 for my head. Once in 3-4 days i shave my head. :)

Been shaving my head for a long time. Before retirement, daily as I shaved my face. Much less frequently now, sometimes so that clippers are required before a razor can be used.

If you decide to go the razor route, keep the tissues and styptic powder handy as you’ll likely cut your head at some point. There is a bit of a learning curve and remember, the multi blade razors make multi cuts and the head can bleed like dammit.

I’ve used just about every razor available in a grocery store or pharmacy and some years ago I settled on this one. Blades are expensive and I look for sales, promos and box store buys but the shave is great and nicks have been minimal.
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Recently, I decided to give an electric a try. This one came in a couple of weeks ago and I’ve only used it 3 or 4 times. So far I’m satisfied though it’s not razor close, one has to feel the skin to tell the difference. It’s close enough. Wet/dry use. So far I’ve found clean and dry to be most effective. I tried it in the shower and though the results were good, it seemed to take longer. I’ve yet to try it with a shaving oil. Cleanup is easy. Comes with attachments. Think I paid $50 US on Amazon.
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Like others have said, Gary, you're best option is a razor and shaving cream. That's what I use.

As for altering your hat size, I don't think it will as your hair is quite thin.
Thanks for the replies, guys. I was also considering a buzz cut. Watching some videos on YouTube, I got the feeling that going from a head of (albeit thinning) hair, to buzz cut, to shaved, is a bit like going from no hats, to stingy brims, to wider brims. But I was also left with the impression that the buzz cut is not the best option for someone thinning from the peak of the crown.
I use one of these on my face, so I guess it’s probably the best option for my head, too. I’m not a fan of cartridges.
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I was impressed with the speed of the electric head shavers, though.
Gary, as far as spacers for your hats. You can buy all sorts of weird stuff to use but the best i’ve found is felt.
I just looked for the thickest most dense felt at the sewing dept of Walmart and bought about a yard’s worth. You can trim it to whatever width needed, whatever length needed. You can place short ones wherever you want and double etc them up for thicker if necessary.
Cost a couple few bucks and you’ll have them forever.
Felt also grips the inside of the crown and rough sweatband and stays in place nicely.
As far as shaved head or buzz cut, doubt you’ll notice that much difference in sizing because you’re not a hairy monster.
B

If you currently have hair and DO go shaved.... you MAY need some spacers... start with something in the back of the sweat. If you use a good leather preservative like Pecards on the sweatband, it wont slide around too much
I have a few unused spacers for a start if needed. I actually also wondered if with the increased skin on leather surface area, if it hats would actually stay in place better.
 

RickP

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Thanks for the replies, guys. I was also considering a buzz cut. Watching some videos on YouTube, I got the feeling that going from a head of (albeit thinning) hair, to buzz cut, to shaved, is a bit like going from no hats, to stingy brims, to wider brims. But I was also left with the impression that the buzz cut is not the best option for someone thinning from the peak of the crown.
I use one of these on my face, so I guess it’s probably the best option for my head, too. I’m not a fan of cartridges.
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I was impressed with the speed of the electric head shavers, though.



I have a few unused spacers for a start if needed. I actually also wondered if with the increased skin on leather surface area, if it hats would actually stay in place better.
I went back to the old school safety razors years ago and have never regretted it. just snug it up and lube the skin. I dont miss the $10 per blade refills one bit. Add to that I actually have one of my grandfathers straight razors that I stop up and use on neck-lines. Guess Im going backwards tchnology -wise lol
 

The Shoe

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I went back to the old school safety razors years ago and have never regretted it. just snug it up and lube the skin. I dont miss the $10 per blade refills one bit. Add to that I actually have one of my grandfathers straight razors that I stop up and use on neck-lines. Guess Im going backwards tchnology -wise lol
Yeah, I’ve been using that for about 3 years now. I’ve used electric and cartridge shavers, but this is just a far nicer experience. Still a bit scary going to a full head shave with it. I do have an alum block and hemostatic pencil to deal with cuts.
 

Rmccamey

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That looks dangerous :)
Thanks for the replies, guys. I was also considering a buzz cut. Watching some videos on YouTube, I got the feeling that going from a head of (albeit thinning) hair, to buzz cut, to shaved, is a bit like going from no hats, to stingy brims, to wider brims. But I was also left with the impression that the buzz cut is not the best option for someone thinning from the peak of the crown.
I use one of these on my face, so I guess it’s probably the best option for my head, too. I’m not a fan of cartridges.
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I was impressed with the speed of the electric head shavers, though.



I have a few unused spacers for a start if needed. I actually also wondered if with the increased skin on leather surface area, if it hats would actually stay in place better.
 

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Not sure why my brain has drifted toward this subject, but just wondering: when various hat companies started marketing their hats in line with price points;e.g-'twenty-five','twenty','one hundred', were they planning on zero inflation? At what point did Stetson give up on the 'twenty-five' due to inflation pushing it up to where it needed to be sold for, say, $29? ...did they reduce the quality gradually over the years so that $25 still made sense? I'm sure this question has been addressed before, but I can't find it. Knowing how forgetful I have become, it's possible that I started a thread 10-15 years ago.

The above makes me think of the worst hat marketing idea in history: the 'Stetson two-hundred' for their new bottom-of-the-line hat.
 
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The Lost Cowboy

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Not sure why my brain has drifted toward this subject, but just wondering: when various hat companies started marketing their hats in line with price points;e.g-'twenty-five','twenty','one hundred', were they planning on zero inflation? At what point did Stetson give up on the 'twenty-five' due to inflation pushing it up to where it needed to be sold for, say, $29? ...did they reduce the quality gradually over the years so that $25 still made sense? I'm sure this question has been addressed before, but I can't find it. Knowing how forgetful I have become, it's possible that I started a thread 10-15 years ago.
I have a 50s JBS 25 along with one from the 70s and I have multiple JBS 20s from various decades and I definitely see quality decrease. Some folks really love the 1940s models but for me the highpoint was the early 50s - I love my early 1950s JBS 20s. The felt on the mid-1960s models is noticeably inferior (but still good quality) and then by the late 60s the sweatbands become thin and my 1970s JBS 25 has a thin black sweatband that is just not very comfortable at all. The felt is a bit like cardboard (much better than an Akubra, obviously, but markedly inferior to my 1950s 25).
 

AbbaDatDeHat

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Thanks for the replies, guys. I was also considering a buzz cut. Watching some videos on YouTube, I got the feeling that going from a head of (albeit thinning) hair, to buzz cut, to shaved, is a bit like going from no hats, to stingy brims, to wider brims. But I was also left with the impression that the buzz cut is not the best option for someone thinning from the peak of the crown.
I use one of these on my face, so I guess it’s probably the best option for my head, too. I’m not a fan of cartridges.
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I was impressed with the speed of the electric head shavers, though.



I have a few unused spacers for a start if needed. I actually also wondered if with the increased skin on leather surface area, if it hats would actually stay in place better.
Prob be like a suction cup.
Sweatband is called that for a reason.
B
Ps: think i’d buzz cut it first and see how i liked it.
Save blood.
 

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Well, I’ve gone ahead and done it. The place I got it done doesn't shave heads, so I got their shortest buzz cut (0.8mm). It didn’t feel as weird as I thought it would. I’m quite happy with it, but now I need to make a decision as to whether to continue with buzz cuts or to shave. If I go for buzz cuts, I’ll need to buy a cutter. I can’t afford to go to a barber a couple of times a week. If not, I’ll use what I have to shave, or go electric. I’m leaning towards electric as the one I have my eye on just looks so fast.
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Well, I’ve gone ahead and done it. The place I got it done doesn't shave heads, so I got their shortest buzz cut (0.8mm). It didn’t feel as weird as I thought it would. I’m quite happy with it, but now I need to make a decision as to whether to continue with buzz cuts or to shave. If I go for buzz cuts, I’ll need to buy a cutter. I can’t afford to go to a barber a couple of times a week. If not, I’ll use what I have to shave, or go electric. I’m leaning towards electric as the one I have my eye on just looks so fast.
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Exactly the same way I started, Gary. I think I went to Wal-Mart the day after my first buzz cut and bought my own clippers. Did that for awhile before deciding to shave it. Looks good, by the way. Not everyone has the head for it.
 
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Well, I’ve gone ahead and done it. The place I got it done doesn't shave heads, so I got their shortest buzz cut (0.8mm). It didn’t feel as weird as I thought it would. I’m quite happy with it, but now I need to make a decision as to whether to continue with buzz cuts or to shave. If I go for buzz cuts, I’ll need to buy a cutter. I can’t afford to go to a barber a couple of times a week. If not, I’ll use what I have to shave, or go electric. I’m leaning towards electric as the one I have my eye on just looks so fast.
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While I must say.. I was a bit jealous of the hair you did have. This looks great on you. Ready for your cameo in an upcoming action thriller.
 

AbbaDatDeHat

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Well, I’ve gone ahead and done it. The place I got it done doesn't shave heads, so I got their shortest buzz cut (0.8mm). It didn’t feel as weird as I thought it would. I’m quite happy with it, but now I need to make a decision as to whether to continue with buzz cuts or to shave. If I go for buzz cuts, I’ll need to buy a cutter. I can’t afford to go to a barber a couple of times a week. If not, I’ll use what I have to shave, or go electric. I’m leaning towards electric as the one I have my eye on just looks so fast.
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Electric…you don’t even need a mirror. Just your fingers to feel.
You can even do it sitting, scrolling the lounge during your morning constitutional.
B
 
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I have a 50s JBS 25 along with one from the 70s and I have multiple JBS 20s from various decades and I definitely see quality decrease. Some folks really love the 1940s models but for me the highpoint was the early 50s - I love my early 1950s JBS 20s. The felt on the mid-1960s models is noticeably inferior (but still good quality) and then by the late 60s the sweatbands become thin and my 1970s JBS 25 has a thin black sweatband that is just not very comfortable at all. The felt is a bit like cardboard (much better than an Akubra, obviously, but markedly inferior to my 1950s 25).

would this be the hatting equivalent of 'shrinkflation'?
 

Monte.C

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Well, I’ve gone ahead and done it. The place I got it done doesn't shave heads, so I got their shortest buzz cut (0.8mm). It didn’t feel as weird as I thought it would. I’m quite happy with it, but now I need to make a decision as to whether to continue with buzz cuts or to shave. If I go for buzz cuts, I’ll need to buy a cutter. I can’t afford to go to a barber a couple of times a week. If not, I’ll use what I have to shave, or go electric. I’m leaning towards electric as the one I have my eye on just looks so fast.
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Well I haven't seen you with hair, but this looks great on you.
I started by using my beard trimmer for a while, but that was silly. Then I went with what seemed to me the most serious, professional way I might go. I use the Oster Classic 76. It costs a few dollars but it's a one time buy, to make your life better.

EDIT: Oh! For your hair, maybe this?
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Nice cheap option and looks so easy to use. I love the idea but I keep my hair a tiny bit longer than that.
 
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I'm nowhere near the "shave your head" stage, but I started developing the receding hair line and typical bald spot on the crown of my head about 25 years ago, so I've had time to think about them and plan ahead. Also, my fiancee really doesn't like short hair on men, so at this point the plan is simple--cut my hair regularly to keep it tidy but not too short, and keep it clean. That's pretty much it--nothing innovative, just keep on keepin' on. And if it keeps falling out...well, we'll see. One day I might wake up and realize hair is simply no longer an option. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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I'm nowhere near the "shave your head" stage, but I started developing the receding hair line and typical bald spot on the crown of my head about 25 years ago, so I've had time to think about them and plan ahead. Also, my fiancee really doesn't like short hair on men, so at this point the plan is simple--cut my hair regularly to keep it tidy but not too short, and keep it clean. That's pretty much it--nothing innovative, just keep on keepin' on. And if it keeps falling out...well, we'll see. One day I might wake up and realize hair is simply no longer an option. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
First time I shaved my head was back when Andre Agassi did it. He had fantastic long hair, but realized it was receding, so did a preemptive strike. My hair had been receding for years. Now I just do the lowest shaver setting, but actually shaving your head feels really fantastic, and I'm too old to care much what I look like (except the protruding belly, which bugs me).
 

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I shave my head and have for years. I'll share a story here that might not be for everyone.

My wife and I occasionally entertain at our house and have at times had more than 100 guests at a time. The bigger parties are more fun because you never get trapped by that one nutbar spouse you might like to avoid. This was a smaller party and there was one particular stuff shirt that arrived. It was a woman that liked to find a reason to be offended by something someone else in the room had said. We all know the type and we've probably all been trapped by one like her.

She asked if I remembered the first time I ever shaved my head and I said "of course! My wife and I had gone out for a nice dinner on the town and had a couple glasses of wine. It was a beautiful time. On the way home I mentioned to my wife that I had heard younger women were now shaving their hoo haws, would she ever try something like that? She didn't say much but it did seem like she was giving it some serious thought".

"In the morning I woke up bald".

That guest was not impressed w/ me that evening.

As a practical matter though shaving cream is not necessary. I shave in the shower, soap up my head and use a 5 blade razor... whatever Costco's peddling will work. You don't need to see what you're doing, you can hear when the blades are cutting as opposed to just gliding over skin and you can run your fingers over your scalp to verify you got it all. Total time? Not much more than 90 seconds.

When you get out reach for your nose hair trimmer. You'll need it to get the tiny bit of hair at the top of your ear where ear meets scalp as those razors never get that bit.
 

Monte.C

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I keep my hair at less than 1/4". There's still enough to show that I can still grow hair if I wanted to. :p
I've come across people who think I should still "need" to use shampoo. Strange. I tell them I haven't used shampoo for more than 20 years. My arm is skin with some hair. My head is skin with some hair.
???
 

MissPat

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I recently found a hat lining stuffed into a rock crack inside an old mine which last was in operation in the 1920's. I am looking for any information on the manufacturer and date of manufacture. This will be another addition to the history of this mine, which is owned by a friend who is trying to preserve it and its history.

The photo is the logo found in the crown of the lining. Anyone recognize it?
 

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