an idea I've been tossing around ... your thoughts?

[Bob Roberts]

Sweet but a little "gruff" at times.

 

[Bob Roberts]

I understand what you guys are saying but I don't want this to be about me at all

not only that ... it just seems extremely tacky to be like ... "hey check out my show ..." ... then it's me there talking about my collection ... that's cringeworthy to me ... yuck

I'll mention my passion in the introduction and that will be it ... this show will be about the shops , collectors , and hatters that I visit

You would never be cheeeeeeezy.

 

[blueAZNmonkey]

I agree with Ant on this one -- little more than an intro title sequence akin to Pawn Stars or American Pickers would be needed to introduce himself and show off a quick panning shot of his hat collection. His qualification as the host would come across in his banter with the people he interviews.

 

[moontheloon]

I agree with Ant on this one -- little more than an intro title sequence akin to Pawn Stars or American Pickers would be needed to introduce himself and show off a quick panning shot of his hat collection. His qualification as the host would come across in his banter with the people he interviews.

my thoughts exactly

 

[Rogera]

Nagging is a sign of love. That's what I've been hearing for 38 years now...

 

[guillaumeb]

Hello, did not read the whole thing but I think we could go a little bit further and have some sort of collective work so that every interested person could see their town/country based hatter. We’d just need to codify the whole thing, have a precise structure and an editorial strategy in order to gather everything in one place. Some sort wikipedia organization


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[moontheloon]

Hello, did not read the whole thing but I think we could go a little bit further and have some sort of collective work so that every interested person could see their town/country based hatter. We’d just need to codify the whole thing, have a precise structure and an editorial strategy in order to gather everything in one place. Some sort wikipedia organization


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no need to further complicate an already complex process

we will get a trailer done and see what happens from there

I am in the process of writing and getting funding for the pilot

also have not heard back from Steve @besdor at Bencraft for permission to shoot yet ...

when these steps clear the process should speed up

 

[emigran]

SPLENDID... !!!
Moon... it was NEVER about Robert Osborne either... but rather all the "hats" he saw...!!!

 

[andrew_AU]

Hello, did not read the whole thing but I think we could go a little bit further and have some sort of collective work so that every interested person could see their town/country based hatter. We’d just need to codify the whole thing, have a precise structure and an editorial strategy in order to gather everything in one place. Some sort wikipedia organization


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I like the idea of a hatter wiki but it sounds to me like a totally separate project.

 

[Fair Play]

Great idea! Please do it, I know a million people that would watch.

 

[moontheloon]

Great idea! Please do it, I know a million people that would watch.

the wheels are in motion ... and thank you

 

[FedOregon]

I know I'd watch it a million times all by myself.

 

[blueAZNmonkey]

Just an FYI -- Heading up to LA today so I can drop Erin off at the baby shower my family is hosting. I'm thinking of going to Baron's in Burbank as I've yet to check them out and I thought a little steak out of a possible West Coast location couldn't hurt. Hopefully the head milliner is there so I can get a read on his personality. Of course, I'll be keeping Project Moon Landing top secret since Ant is the brains.

 

[moontheloon]

Just an FYI -- Heading up to LA today so I can drop Erin off at the baby shower my family is hosting. I'm thinking of going to Baron's in Burbank as I've yet to check them out and I thought a little steak out of a possible West Coast location couldn't hurt. Hopefully the head milliner is there so I can get a read on his personality. Of course, I'll be keeping Project Moon Landing top secret since Ant is the brains.

have you been over to Wellema yet? ... if not try to pop in if time allows

I'd love to hear what it's like from a visitor ... from photos it looks very old timey and classic ... looks just amazing

 

[jlee562]

Weird thing about Baron is that their website seems to be slowly shrinking. They updated a bunch of photos, but they also dropped a lot of hats. They've got like two fur felt fedoras online. The Bob Dylan Rolling Thunder Review hat that is on the splash page? Good luck trying to order it. They even pulled their Indiana Jones lid down.

 

[blueAZNmonkey]

So... My planned excursion to Baron turned into my dad and uncles kidnapping me for margarita pitchers and shots of 1800. Can't say I'm terribly upset haha. Erin and I will be up in LA for Thanksgiving and we're planning to check out both Baron and Wellema.

 

[Frunobulax]

So... My planned excursion to Baron turned into my dad and uncles kidnapping me for margarita pitchers and shots of 1800. Can't say I'm terribly upset haha. Erin and I will be up in LA for Thanksgiving and we're planning to check out both Baron and Wellema.

Now, you have to share that picture of you with the lampshade.

 

[boze]

I like this idea and I think the two things that would make it go are charisma and pace.

If you check out some of the second tier shows to Anthony Bourdain it's pretty clear that his job is to be more entertaining than most of the cooks, establishments, and locales he visits. The extent to which the copycat shows get over largely depends on the personality of the host. Anthony seems like a good fit to me because he'll have the background, insight, and appreciation loungers will dig while still being relaxed and accessible to someone with only a passing curiosity.

By pace I'm talking about not just the shorter length but also responsible editing to keep the content popping. Like if we're seeing a Lounger's collection they'd be comfortably rapid - like six total looks in fewer than thirty seconds rather than following somebody around while they open a box every five minutes. I recall photography slideshows where some photographers think a five second delay is appropriate and they're overestimating the patience and focus of their audience.

Production value is important too but as long as the basics of sound and lighting are there the host and the hat have a good chance.

The Lounger segments should feature folks who dress smartly from the neck down too. The hats will gain context through the individuality and personality of the folks underneath, not the other way around.

 

[Qrowin]

I would definitly watch this. Unfortuatly i live in the wilds of Canada, not much in the ways of hattters for quite some distance. In fact, i appear to be the only person sporting fedoras in a several kilometer radius.

 

[moontheloon]

I like this idea and I think the two things that would make it go are charisma and pace.

If you check out some of the second tier shows to Anthony Bourdain it's pretty clear that his job is to be more entertaining than most of the cooks, establishments, and locales he visits. The extent to which the copycat shows get over largely depends on the personality of the host. Anthony seems like a good fit to me because he'll have the background, insight, and appreciation loungers will dig while still being relaxed and accessible to someone with only a passing curiosity.

By pace I'm talking about not just the shorter length but also responsible editing to keep the content popping. Like if we're seeing a Lounger's collection they'd be comfortably rapid - like six total looks in fewer than thirty seconds rather than following somebody around while they open a box every five minutes. I recall photography slideshows where some photographers think a five second delay is appropriate and they're overestimating the patience and focus of their audience.

Production value is important too but as long as the basics of sound and lighting are there the host and the hat have a good chance.

The Lounger segments should feature folks who dress smartly from the neck down too. The hats will gain context through the individuality and personality of the folks underneath, not the other way around.

thanks for the input

the production people I am working with as far as camera , producer, editor are professionals and work on these type of shows for a living

it will very much be filmed and edited in the vein of MTV Cribs , Diners Drive ins and Dives , Pawn Stars and American Pickers ...

establishing a budget and having filming permissions granted are delaying us at the moment .. .but it will be worked out

as I'd stated earlier ... we are aiming for the pilot to start at Bencraft Hatters in Brooklyn for some history on the store and hats ... then head up to Alans house in Buffalo to raid his collection and chat with him ... then over to Gary White's shop to discuss some hat making