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    In the market for a tux...

    Yep - I tend to look like a billboard in a double-breasted suit. I need a cut that looks well tapered, as my waist is 34 and my chest is 52. A tailor suggested tails, but I think I look silly in tails - like some cross between Lyle Alzado and a penquin... :eek: I'll probably get as much...
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    ID'ing horsehide, other leathers

    Also, on the "toughness" scale - we did some work a few years back and worked with an association of tanneries in gathering data for IndyGear. Cowhide is actually pretty far down the list in strength. Kangaroo Goatskin Horsehide Deerskin Cowhide Lambskin This is not a...
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    ID'ing horsehide, other leathers

    Haven't read all the posts, but once the leather is tanned the genetic material is gone/toast. Old steer and hh would be impossible to tell apart at that point. Goat would be the simplest just because of the pebbled skin and inherent waterproof nature. Lamb is not waterproof and was only used...
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    Aero Horsehide stain transfer

    I've owned 8 Aero's over the years, and currently still have 3... I had the problem you relate with 2 of the ones I've let go or given away over the last few years. One was a private label A2 in front qrt HH (cordovan) and the other was a Bronco in oil pulled hh. The cordovan was apparently...
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    True Confessions: My Sordid String of Love Affairs

    My shortlist of current leading ladies... 1.) Debra Messing 2.) Felicity Huffman 3.) Cate Blanchett 4.) Salma Hayek 5.) Pina Porceddu
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    In the market for a tux...

    Thanks! Tony was going to be my next stop - we go back a few years in the IndyGear world... :)
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    In the market for a tux...

    Really! Actually, this is our first Alaskan cruise as well. We "threw the dice" on Norwegian this time - due to it departing from Seattle and my inlaws are going with us. Also, I guess this is a brand-new ship - the Pearl? Anyway, we are cruise junkies - partially MK's fault... ;) Now we...
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    In the market for a tux...

    Please forgive me if this question is "old hat" but I am in the market for a tux. I have one that my dad and his party wore for my parent's wedding in 1952 - white wool dinner jacket with satin lapels, black trousers, etc... I was able to wear it in college, but... ;) Actually, the...
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    Bullet-proof Indy...

    Well, I've gone and done it. I ordered my bullet-proof Indy jacket from US Wings in the vintage cowhide. I'll make a full report here and at COW...
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    Ultimate EASTMAN (ELC) flying kit thread.

    I've noticed something that has set-off a warning bell for me; Eastman Leather has begun to rollout new product descriptions for their jackets on the HPA site. They are referring to their jackets as being made with the more generic "leather" than specifying horsehide - specifically on their...
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    The A-2 review

    Eastman does not actually tan their own hides - they procure them. They ask for bids based on their specs. Eastman quality has been a bit of a rollercoaster - recently its been better than average. I've owned between 6-10 of their jackets - various pattern A2's and USN jackets. Honestly...
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    The A-2 review

    Agreed. IMHO, "pre-distressing" is a no-win. The hide is usually distressed in all the wrong placed, and it is prone to excessive wear at the time when a traditional hide would begin to break-in. I've been of a mind to manually accelerate the process on a new jacket, via MK's methods. While...
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    What about Willis and Gieger?

    I can corroborate Michelson's information, and can add a bit as it relates to flight jackets: W&G has claimed to be an A2 supplier to the Army Air Corp, but they were not. I've not heard of a single W&G "A2" proving to be genuine. Most date from the early-mid '80's, and have an "oversized"...
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    The A-2 review

    Acme Depot is a great site, but beware of his bias towards Eastman products.
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    New Jacket

    I'm trying to go the Lee Kepler route, i.e. to become an enigma and/or fabled creature! (grin) I guess the trick there is not to be completely forgotten. How's that car doing? I have similar concerns with the oil-pulled horsehide - it is soft and beautiful, but would absorb liquids in a...
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    New Jacket

    Real McCoys makes some beautiful jackets - their Rough Wear and Werber jackets are great. Their Dubow is probably the best repro of that company's jacket, but the collar on it (and the originals) is a bit funky for my taste. I've just picked-up an Aero 1940 Beacon, NY pattern with a...
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    How Many?

    Dang! 15 Optimos and only one head?! (grin) Thanks for the clarification.
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    How Many?

    Sorry - But who the heck is Andy?
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    Flight Suits on NPR...

    All Things Considered aired a story on 11/12 entitled "Factory Workers Become Victims of Productivity" which featured Gibson & Barnes (Flight Suits) in El Cajon. They outlined the automation and productivity gains made by Jim and company, which allows them to be competitive, flexible, and...
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    Flight Suits Lamb or Goat is the question!!

    For So Cal? Well, that's a pretty big area with a high degree of variability in microclimates. I live in the high desert north of Los Angeles, where summer is just nasty-hot in the 100-110 F range with no humidity. In the late fall through winter, we can still se 90+ degree days for a...

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