White RAF Roll Neck Sweaters

[leper-colony]

'Frock'!

While there wasn't an actual page for 'Sweaters, the use of' in King's Regulations, obviously many guys chose to wear them in unheated cockpits

The real-authentic-ohmyGodyougotoneof'em sweater would be the 'frock'. Stores Ref. Number 22G/63. Natural coloured wool, long in the body (to cover your butt), and having a high, non-turtleneck collar.

While many repros are out there that tend to cover both the Navy and Aircrew look, the original frock looks like this:

Paddy was looking for a pattern for it, I'm hoping he is successful so WE CAN ALL GET ONE

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=9242

Looks pretty proper:
https://www.oldtimedesigncompany.co.uk/product-page/raf-aircrew-frock-jumper-air-ministry-pattern

 

[Ticklishchap]

Looks pretty proper:
https://www.oldtimedesigncompany.co.uk/product-page/raf-aircrew-frock-jumper-air-ministry-pattern

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Thank you for that Link. I see that they have the ‘frock jumper’ in Navy as well and also a repro WWII British Army Pullover. Just my sort of place.

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

Thank you for that Link. I see that they have the ‘frock jumper’ in Navy as well and also a repro WWII British Army Pullover. Just my sort of place.

Interesting, I wonder when they lengthened the sleeves and beck to make it in a Roll Neck. These were used in the RAF & Royal Navy/Submarines.

 

[Ticklishchap]

Interesting, I wonder when they lengthened the sleeves and beck to make it in a Roll Neck. These were used in the RAF & Royal Navy/Submarines.

That’s certainly what it looks like.

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

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I Really like this photo. I notice that tonight, Tuesday 14 Dec 2021, there is a programme on Freeview Channel 32, Smithsonian about HMS Trenchant, A Royal Navy Submarine, I suspect that it may have been on Channel 5 a few months ago and is quite recent. I think these photos may have been taken in connection with that Programme as there is a similar picture in the Radio Times TV Guide of this week. I shall watch or record it. It did show some of the crew wearing the white sub roll necks.

 

[Gromit]

Hello. If anyone owns the Outdoor Knitwear Submariner sweater in size M or L, could you please measure pit to pit? Want to pick it up, but worried about the sizing

 

[FOXTROT LAMONT]

Superb sweaters worn with purpose yet panache. Still, personal preference for Second World War thick yarn 'rope.'

 

[Ticklishchap]

Superb sweaters worn with purpose yet panache. Still, personal preference for Second World War thick yarn 'rope.'

Yes - I have both the Ecru and Navy versions.

 

[Gromit]

Bought both XS and S sizes of the OK submariner. Which one should I keep? (first 2 pictures show XS size)

 

[Peacoat]

I thought I had answered this question this morning, but I don't see that it got posted. Keep the Small; it is a better fit.

 

[Ticklishchap]

The Small does look a more comfortable fit; it also allows for a bit of growth over the festive season! I vote for the S

 

[Gromit]

I thought I had answered this question this morning, but I don't see that it got posted. Keep the Small; it is a better fit.

Yep, decided to post it here as well, just in case

The Small does look a more comfortable fit; it also allows for a bit of growth over the festive season! I vote for the S

Thank you!

Could you guys check one last time? I feel like the XS size stretched a bit while wearing it briefly indoors (the sleeves are on the shorter side but I can "extend" them at the bottom, if that makes sense)

 

[Ticklishchap]

Yep, decided to post it here as well, just in case

Thank you!

Could you guys check one last time? I feel like the XS size stretched a bit while wearing it briefly indoors (the sleeves are on the shorter side but I can "extend" them at the bottom, if that makes sense)

I still think you are much safer with the S!

 

[DogFacePonySoldier]

I also guessed small.

 

[Fading Fast]

I agree with everyone above, the small just fits better, overall, and in the sleeves.

Enjoy your new sweater.

 

[Gromit]

I still think you are much safer with the S!

I also guessed small.

I agree with everyone above, the small just fits better, overall, and in the sleeves.

Enjoy your new sweater.

Thanks guys, will be returning XS then!