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What Hat Are You Wearing Today ?

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TFCD due to the likelihood of rain:

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Daniele Tanto

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I didn't even know there were Borsalinos Super Trionfo.
@Daniele Tanto? Could you tell us a little about them?
Max, as I have already said in other posts and here I repeat, Borsalino had no classification given by names or abbreviations of the hats. In modern times the only tangible classification is given by the mixture of fur for special felt (vicuna, beaver, cervelt, guanaco) and by the denomination "Marengo" for the second price range hats. In the past it was the price that determined the quality of the hat, according to its construction, felt and shape. Therefore the words found in the linings of ancient Borsalino or a recent past do not say anything at all. For the American market, marketing strategies have been developed to give the buyer a foothold in the market that American competitors had saturated with names, acronyms and captions for their hats. I have Borsalino marked "Trionfo" that are the opposite of each other like shape, felt and finish and so on for all the denominations that Borsalino has given over the years to his hats. "SuperTrionfo" is one of the variations of the marketing strategies implemented in the past for the American market. As you can see from the Borsalino hats I wear, I never mention what is written on the lining or sweatband, but only the color and the type of hat that is one of the mysteries of Borsalino, because with the same wording there are hats of obvious different shape. Borsalino, like the other Italian producers has always made hats that spoke, for good or bad, for themselves, none of us asks the shopkeeper for a Borsalino such, but simply a Borsalino, no matter what is written inside or outside.
 

Steinbockhase

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Max, as I have already said in other posts and here I repeat, Borsalino had no classification given by names or abbreviations of the hats. In modern times the only tangible classification is given by the mixture of fur for special felt (vicuna, beaver, cervelt, guanaco) and by the denomination "Marengo" for the second price range hats. In the past it was the price that determined the quality of the hat, according to its construction, felt and shape. Therefore the words found in the linings of ancient Borsalino or a recent past do not say anything at all. For the American market, marketing strategies have been developed to give the buyer a foothold in the market that American competitors had saturated with names, acronyms and captions for their hats. I have Borsalino marked "Trionfo" that are the opposite of each other like shape, felt and finish and so on for all the denominations that Borsalino has given over the years to his hats. "SuperTrionfo" is one of the variations of the marketing strategies implemented in the past for the American market. As you can see from the Borsalino hats I wear, I never mention what is written on the lining or sweatband, but only the color and the type of hat that is one of the mysteries of Borsalino, because with the same wording there are hats of obvious different shape. Borsalino, like the other Italian producers has always made hats that spoke, for good or bad, for themselves, none of us asks the shopkeeper for a Borsalino such, but simply a Borsalino, no matter what is written inside or outside.

I understand:
So paying more money for "Speciale ... Extra Superiore ... or ... Extra Extra Superiore" is no guaranty for better quality.
But there is at least the chance that the hat could be better than standard quality, correct?
I am sure you can get a higher price selling an "Extra Extra ..." than just a "Superiore" :)
That is my experience on eBay.
(this should be in the Borsalino thread)
 

Daniele Tanto

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I understand:
So paying more money for "Speciale ... Extra Superiore ... or ... Extra Extra Superiore" is no guaranty for better quality.
But there is at least the chance that the hat could be better than standard quality, correct?
It seems to me that there is some confusion even under the sky of europe :rolleyes:
When did you pay more money for one of the various qualities marked by Borsalino in his hats?
And where is the standard quality?
I would like to know these answers to give you an answer
 

Steinbockhase

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It seems to me that there is some confusion even under the sky of europe :rolleyes:
When did you pay more money for one of the various qualities marked by Borsalino in his hats?
And where is the standard quality?
I would like to know these answers to give you an answer

A novice hat collector, like me, and other non-experts are just trying to follow some kind of logic:
"Extra" is expected to be better than simple "Superiore"
"Extra Extra" is expected to be better than "Extra"
and so on ...
I don't mean newest Borsalinos; but the models from the second half of the last century ... before and after leaving Alessandria.
Of course I have noticed that felt quality sometimes does not relate to the mentioned descriptions.
Are all these different quality names really meaningless and nonsense?
 

TheOldFashioned

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The Great Lakes
Thanks. It is not a big island. I like Shipwreck beach in Poipu. I'm on the East side near Kealia beach. Wish I had brought more hats.
:)

I hear you on the hats, definitely lots of sun. Fair amount of rain on the northern side of the island and higher elevations. We got soaked one morning while walking through a botanical garden, and also while hiking a trail on Waimea Canyon.

My favorite beach was Polihale on the extreme western end. Much less touristy. I think we could have counted the total number of people on one hand. It was perfect.

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Daniele Tanto

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A few days of absence and the parade of magnificent hats has expanded
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From the "hairy hats" series, today we have a Borsalino
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Borsalino Grand Prix size 6 or 59 cm. or 7 3/8 US
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Color is "Miele" and the ribbon is "Seppia". Magnificent felt and color matching, equally
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Hat from the sixties of excellent workmanship with a felt, soft and very compact, with a unique color best taken in the sun
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Thanks for the likes of last week and have a nice day
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The hairy serie is not finish :rolleyes:
 

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