What do you layer under your leather jacket?

[Mark Hutchins]

I'd like to be able to wear a leather jacket when the temps get lower, like snow on the ground lower. Just curious about what you guys have found that is thin enough to fit under a jacket comfortably, but also gives the best bang for your buck with regard to insulation. Thanks!

 

[Mark Hutchins]

I'd like to be able to wear a leather jacket when the temps get lower, like snow on the ground lower. Just curious about what you guys have found that is thin enough to fit under a jacket comfortably, but also gives the best bang for your buck with regard to insulation. Thanks!

I wear a US Army nylon quilted field jacket liner under a G-1 sometimes...or a wool sweater... a mistake is getting a leather jacket that is too tight for a warm layer...or, you could have a summer jacket and larger winter jacket.

 

[Aloysius]

Agreed. There are some iconic photos where Joey‘s jacket looks too short but he would have been tough to fit in any OTR double rider.
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Tommy’s the exception in the other direction since he was too short for men’s cross zips and wore a Cycle Queen (pretty briefly before going back to a leather trucker).

I imagine part of why Joey switched to Lewis for a while might have been that (even then) they were made to order so they could do longer sleeves for him.

 

[Mark Hutchins]

I'd like to be able to wear a leather jacket when the temps get lower, like snow on the ground lower. Just curious about what you guys have found that is thin enough to fit under a jacket comfortably, but also gives the best bang for your buck with regard to insulation. Thanks!

I don't try to wear my leather jacket when weather is cooler than45-50F.
For cold, rainy or snowy weather I have a series of Wellensteyn jackets that range from comfortable at 50F to -30F.

 

[Marc mndt]

Browns Beach inspired vest made by Woolrich.

The Japan made Browns Beach copies are ridiculously expensive, no idea why. Vintage Woolrich repros can be found in the €50-€100 price range.

 

[DLBERNAU]

I’ve had very good luck with Vanson streamliners, both the earlier iteration and the most recent one with zip off sleeves. Not bulky, snap into many Vanson leather jackets, and very warm.

 

[jonbuilder]

Imo if you can’t layer anything, under your leather jacket, other than a t-shirt you are buying the wrong size. A jacket should be versatile, and you should be able to wear it as much as possible, so if you are buying that tight fashion fit you greatly limit the use of the jacket.

That one excuss a lot of us use to justify owning more than one leather jacket. We need numerous leather jackets so we have one to fit different weather conditions and social occasions.

 

[Edward]

Except for Marky’s Monza which he mostly wore with his previous band, their jackets were nowhere near as undersized as people imagine. Dee Dee regularly wore a hoodie under his Perfecto, as did Joey (whose sizing had other problems, chiefly his being far taller than average). Johnny’s is clearly true to size, as are Joey’s Lewis jackets and later Vanson jackets.

Certainly true that if you look at the photos by Rocket to Russia, there's a very marked improvement in fit from the very earliest photos (also, by that era- Tommy's return to the trucker style being the exception, of course) there's the settling on the double-rider / lancer front as the Ramone Uniform. As memory serves, on the first album cover, it's only Johnny in a lancer front; Joey's wearing what looks like an early 70s jacket with a big, Jim Morrison style collar, and DeeDee had what looked like, from memory, a leather knock-off of an MA1....

Tommy’s the exception in the other direction since he was too short for men’s cross zips and wore a Cycle Queen (pretty briefly before going back to a leather trucker).

I imagine part of why Joey switched to Lewis for a while might have been that (even then) they were made to order so they could do longer sleeves for him.

By that later stage, Joey had also spent a bit more time touring in England and in the same orbit as the Class of 77 London scene, so he'd doubtless have been much more aware of Lewis from the likes of the Clash boys. As memory serves, wasn't it while on tour in England Joey and Marky bought their Lewises? Custom sizing must have helped for Joey, particularly in sleeve length!

Browns Beach inspired vest made by Woolrich.

The Japan made Browns Beach copies are ridiculously expensive, no idea why. Vintage Woolrich repros can be found in the €50-€100 price range.

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Ohhh..... now where exactly *would* one fund an affordable repop of the likes of this?

 

[Marc mndt]

Ohhh..... now where exactly *would* one fund an affordable repop of the likes of this?

Ebay, Etsy, Vinted.

Here's a couple

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1256590208...H9d45Wbe5JMqrQp0eh+O11yOM=|tkp:Bk9SR5awuPOnYQ

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3253547695...MV0WHwZhNwU30iZ1eL0CdAseY=|tkp:Bk9SR5awuPOnYQ

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1256510241...4l3CjA4hCTm/CF6uPMjFmFnRB9m6|tkp:BFBMmLC486dh

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1155223910...7XJ5wo/KwwESeJb9e4MTfRQqw=|tkp:Bk9SR5iwuPOnYQ

https://www.etsy.com/listing/137623...st&ref=sr_gallery-1-30&organic_search_click=1

 

[willyto]

Ebay, Etsy, Vinted.

Here's a couple

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1256590208...H9d45Wbe5JMqrQp0eh+O11yOM=|tkp:Bk9SR5awuPOnYQ

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3253547695...MV0WHwZhNwU30iZ1eL0CdAseY=|tkp:Bk9SR5awuPOnYQ

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1256510241...4l3CjA4hCTm/CF6uPMjFmFnRB9m6|tkp:BFBMmLC486dh

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1155223910...7XJ5wo/KwwESeJb9e4MTfRQqw=|tkp:Bk9SR5iwuPOnYQ

https://www.etsy.com/listing/137623...st&ref=sr_gallery-1-30&organic_search_click=1

Main concern is that these styles usually appear on the US which means it's a NO GO because of shipping and custom duties and taxes. I no longer buy anything from the US because even if it's cheap then it turns into a very expensive item.

Damn robbers.

 

[Grayland]

Ohhh..... now where exactly *would* one fund an affordable repop of the likes of this?

Bronson sold a version last year. I grabbed one pretty cheap. It is great under a leather jacket.

 

[Marc mndt]

Main concern is that these styles usually appear on the US which means it's a NO GO because of shipping and custom duties and taxes. I no longer buy anything from the US because even if it's cheap then it turns into a very expensive item.

Damn robbers.

Good point. Getting something like this from the US easily adds €75 - €100

I found mine on Vinted

 

[JMax]

Ebay, Etsy, Vinted.

Here's a couple

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125659020807?hash=item1d41dc7e07:g:CGoAAOSwCl5jljAJ&amdata=enc:AQAHAAAAoIIVA+aAeZiixEEldTsCgDIGWkAiFUfTMEt87lVqsjGcHttbiRmlLduZnvTaMTmJ2qzHtE33aRiAAKYOT9bVizphgA9BDsquu/viLacfQgb+OCe4J2y5zWJm7Jgzn2In6Sc89yNJ5ji+NWiEAqOT4KUleuK/xOnfMPoRTMG9DxCFoAGezi1qBagwryd1viH9d45Wbe5JMqrQp0eh+O11yOM=|tkp:Bk9SR5awuPOnYQ

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325354769599?hash=item4bc0a7ccbf:g:0T4AAOSwCYdjLjEd&amdata=enc:AQAHAAAAoAx5ulwhQxqA/uRudB+/nJG5N7mL/90LOc2ZaYRZf6CrGUQXAO2/Y3ra9q18TgLNE8Eao5a3XBr0h4xfveBrqUrsTTnJMEswIxoJieYMH+4k8TaP4Dlq4IIUs0KmyAZLokpSxuC529xFwhERVAXxrHFc4ZRhHUXWkOrYJcc1rAuO9j5ehCyD9+NPW9gPQ/MV0WHwZhNwU30iZ1eL0CdAseY=|tkp:Bk9SR5awuPOnYQ

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125651024187?hash=item1d4162793b:g:sZMAAOSwM8Vjj9xS&amdata=enc:AQAHAAAA4JiArkOL0pymipeVGFL5rmLd7y+Y2wD7/ebiq+Z2PeXDMW2DUuXOHQrm6xTFrydCpu7B0buyxED7ajQEK/XMPGOCpuBN54qKdtSgUaWPKyFOn32DyjEl7rYfCp9iwoR+VEsbgQ1HTHEDvQ61vHLokCfdfju3ytCcVKut3cbhqEa+VbCjYjjzIksy0/vBBFtsDP8PaxDpCeB2iMd0HRSDavDzS5mIzXHUTEVJnYmV9x6YDI3d6axdNOcFWs0kHpPs8Z5tMhfo3w7hD+0P4l3CjA4hCTm/CF6uPMjFmFnRB9m6|tkp:BFBMmLC486dh

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115522391010?hash=item1ae5abcbe2:gmYAAOSw2N9jHXgP&amdata=enc:AQAHAAAAoIZotrjGojQYvM7KgQshVtXrGvLj0ACuHGgBw7QKY4XphO6NYsKDi2pL5VoI5yjgmfNhYSWtBcmre027sbPwIYuy6WvZY+qvkuCVttp2X7cyKW2+5d6qTFc5N0l8WaS1xdqdb1DX+8/kTNB/CTLGtCy7eVdhrYnNq2KzKaWCscvlXg06rcU9lwXNuQo3vs7XJ5wo/KwwESeJb9e4MTfRQqw=|tkp:Bk9SR5iwuPOnYQ

https://www.etsy.com/listing/137623...st&ref=sr_gallery-1-30&organic_search_click=1

What size do you wear? Sizing can be all over the place with woolrich and most I’ve had run huge. I’ve always liked these but hesitated.

 

[Marc mndt]

What size do you wear? Sizing can be all over the place with woolrich and most I’ve had run huge. I’ve always liked these but hesitated.

I needed a 42 for my chest. The ptp was spot on but from there on down it looked like a tent. My tailor did a great job taking out at least two inches from each side.

 

[JMax]

I needed a 42 for my chest. The ptp was spot on but from there on down it looked like a tent. My tailor did a great job taking out at least two inches from each side.
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That does look good. That’s been my problem with Woolrich, and some others. Thanks.

 

[Blackadder]

Browns Beach inspired vest made by Woolrich.

The Japan made Browns Beach copies are ridiculously expensive, no idea why. Vintage Woolrich repros can be found in the €50-€100 price range.

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Different woven technique. BB cloth is 2 ply and thicker with different outside and inside texture.

 

[MrProper]

I needed a 42 for my chest. The ptp was spot on but from there on down it looked like a tent. My tailor did a great job taking out at least two inches from each side.
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I take everything to the tailor, otherwise I also have the tent feeling around the belly.

 

[IrishStu]

I take everything to the tailor, otherwise I also have the tent feeling around the belly.

I wish I had that problem

 

[Yango]

I'd like to be able to wear a leather jacket when the temps get lower, like snow on the ground lower. Just curious about what you guys have found that is thin enough to fit under a jacket comfortably, but also gives the best bang for your buck with regard to insulation. Thanks!

I wear a Tshirt and a thin long sleeve down hoodie. When it gets below freezing I can fit a thin North Face polar fleece under my Schott 141, size 42 long. My chest measurement is 42—and this combo is toasty warm and very comfortable—I don’t feel like my movement is restricted… and I don’t think I look like the Michelin Man.

 

[Peter Mackin]

In winter, ex army thermals,, in summer just a light tee-shirt