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Today marks the premier of the new movie...."The Cowboy Hat Movie"....opening at the Montana Film Fest except of course it is all online this year. They have a web site of the same name where you can find the link to purchase access and watch the trailer. I am headed there now to saddle up!
It was a fun movie....nothing strikingly new but just a very well made doc about cowboy hats and JB Stetson. Only cost $5 and 70 minutes well wasted.
 

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The Good:
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The Bad (moth divots, funky dead spot?):
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The Ugly (seller photos of wonky brim and as-is condition):
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Took delivery of this old No. 1 yesterday, spent a few hours attempting to restore it last night, and the previous post is pics of this afternoon. The moth divots are plentiful, the brim curl looks about right, sweat is conditioned, but that dead spot... I put a spoonful of distilled water on it, which collected immediately on the rust colored stain. I gently tried to dab the water off and quickly realized it was taking gooey felt along with the dabs... I stopped immediately, project for a later time perhaps. I’m very happy with how it turned out, it’s a nice fit and I’ll post some shots in the WAYWT thread for those interested.
 

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The Ugly (seller photos of wonky brim and as-is condition):
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Took delivery of this old No. 1 yesterday, spent a few hours attempting to restore it last night, and the previous post is pics of this afternoon. The moth divots are plentiful, the brim curl looks about right, sweat is conditioned, but that dead spot... I put a spoonful of distilled water on it, which collected immediately on the rust colored stain. I gently tried to dab the water off and quickly realized it was taking gooey felt along with the dabs... I stopped immediately, project for a later time perhaps. I’m very happy with how it turned out, it’s a nice fit and I’ll post some shots in the WAYWT thread for those interested.

Good get Ross, I had been watching and I'm very glad it wound up here.
 

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try some sandpaper on those divots. I've cleaned up minor divots many times with some 220 grit paper.

I was watching that one too. Glad to see you get it Ross. Hope you can repair the damage somehow, but, if not, it tells a story.

Thanks guys, I spent another hour today with some very fine grit, moved the shavings to the rust/mystery spot. It’s done for now, I’m in love but wifey says ‘obnoxious’ LOL.
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Thanks guys, I spent another hour today with some very fine grit, moved the shavings to the rust/mystery spot. It’s done for now, I’m in love but wifey says ‘obnoxious’ LOL.
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I have two hats similar to this....I love them but my wife asks..."Are you really going to wear those......in public?"
 

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Hell, yes, I'll wear it. That one has "stock show and rodeo" written all over it!!!

Early 50s? Embroidered 3X
Western weight with a real soft hand.

The Toggery was opened by the Huffman's in 1916 in Willcox AZ and closed it's doors in 2002. I wonder if this hat belonged to Bruce Huffman or if all Stetson's out of Bruce's, The Toggery, were labeled like this particular 3X?

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I have two hats similar to this....I love them but my wife asks..."Are you really going to wear those......in public?"
 
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Thanks guys, I spent another hour today with some very fine grit, moved the shavings to the rust/mystery spot. It’s done for now, I’m in love but wifey says ‘obnoxious’ LOL.
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Ross, this is your hat in the pic. I believe it is a Stetson San Fran. If you look thru the catalogs (1930's) you can find them. They were No.1Q's with 7" crowns, 1-3/4"(?) ribbon, raw edge brim. For my own info I made note of your block #406.

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Mine is a black 1920's-1930's Stetson Tommy Grimes with the 2" ribbon & brim binding, No.1Q with block #1188. I'm working on creasing it back original with the deep center crease & rounded top look. Now that the weather is turning cooler & I don't mind putting hot steam in the house I'll get that done.

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If you look thru the older catalogs you can quickly separate the wheat from the chaff by the number of models with 7" crowns. I'm sure your's is a San Fran & a great find worthy of recovery.

I'm wondering if the gooey spot on your hat is tree sap? Tree sap will dissolve anything over time & some types of trees are worse than others. When the sap completely dissipates it can turn to black mold & keep eating away. Paint stores usually have a spirit that will kill & remove sap & mold but it will also remove the felt that is on the verge of being dissolved. But you need to stop the process.
 

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Ross, I'm wondering if the gooey spot on your hat is tree sap?

Thanks for the comments and research, Jack! I have seen this #406 on the lounge in a wide variety of felts, almost all of which are older than mine I believe. I’ll have to look into the spot again, because based on the what you’ve described it was very similar reaction. Spot on both sides of brim showed up in photos, on top it got much darker after the distilled water. I was all set on my patch job but certainly don’t want the damage to continue.
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Thanks for the comments and research, Jack! I have seen this #406 on the lounge in a wide variety of felts, almost all of which are older than mine I believe. I’ll have to look into the spot again, because based on the what you’ve described it was very similar reaction. Spot on both sides of brim showed up in photos, on top it got much darker after the distilled water. I was all set on my patch job but certainly don’t want the damage to continue.
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#406 & #424 shows up before. That nice BRE Justin sold was either #664, #666 or #669; couldn't make out the last digit. I can't remember what the block # list thread had listed.

PS on edit: I meant to add we had a big canvas wall tent with a wood stove set up at a construction site continuously for 3 yrs once. When the project was complete I think that canvas tent had hundreds of patches sewn on it. It sat right under two walnut trees all that time.
 
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