Vintage Outerwear: Threads of the Past

[born113]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/mtHRKL0Eb5D3npIf2

And I, in turn, do not understand where you find such wonderful jackets I've been looking for GW Californian or ELMC Californian or something very similar in my size on ebay for a while now but can't find it.

 

[Marc mndt]

And I, in turn, do not understand where you find such wonderful jackets I've been looking for GW Californian or ELMC Californian or something very similar in my size on ebay for a while now but can't find it.

What's your size?

https://grailed.app.link/2AGq74fUcnb

 

[born113]

Montgomery Ward Catalogs - 1920, 1921, 1922. PDF
https://fex.net/s/rlskyzz (files will be stored for 7 days)

What's your size?

My size is about 42. My chest with the basic layer is 41".

 

[Marc mndt]

Suppose I’m officially spamming the board with this jacket now. If you’ve seen any of my posts over the past couple years then you know this one is special to me. I have long wanted an Arcaidia. Seemed impossible. Terry sent me images of the original Campus jacket he sent to JC and I in turn had 5 Star build me two. Nice enough jackets but not quite there. To find an original, the actual jacket the Arcaidia is based on, in my size seems almost like a miracle. I’ve had one before but it was nowhere near this nice or as robust. This is a special jacket.
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Not too many vintage pieces will oblige this crowd pleasing trick:
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It’s quite remarkable and I am in love.
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It's out of this world. Absolutely perfect

 

[tmitchell59]

And I, in turn, do not understand where you find such wonderful jackets I've been looking for GW Californian or ELMC Californian or something very similar in my size on ebay for a while now but can't find it.

I've owned 2 ELMC Californians and they are magnificent! I've also owned several GW Californians. The ELMC stands up well with the GW.

 

[tmitchell59]

Windward Horsehide suede. I don't recall seeing a horeshide label on a suede jacket or any other leather type.

 

[JMax]

Here is the Blatt

 

[Canuck Panda]

The mysterious Blatt. Were they a specialty store? Catalogue? Or just a brand that sold through the department stores then?

 

[tmitchell59]

Here is the Blatt

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For comparison, look to be the same jacket different label. The HD jackets has obvious adornments which are not original.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Check out the map pocket on the back of this Wards jacket. Could this have been the original Short cruiser jacket design that morphed into modern Filson's line up.
Anyone with a vintage jacket that has this "map pocket" feature?
This jacket is not mine, I wish it were. Just found the images. I am big Filson cruiser fan.

 

[Marc mndt]

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Check out the map pocket on the back of this Wards jacket. Could this have been the original Short cruiser jacket design that morphed into modern Filson's line up.
Anyone with a vintage jacket that has this "map pocket" feature?
This jacket is not mine, I wish it were. Just found the images. I am big Filson cruiser fan.

This is a hunting jacket and that's a game pocket on the back. My Thedi has one too:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...nter-thedi-leathers.72559/page-3#post-2777063

 

[Canuck Panda]

This is a hunting jacket and that's a game pocket on the back. My Thedi has one too:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...nter-thedi-leathers.72559/page-3#post-2777063

Thanks I've seen that one before.
I was looking for intel on the original cruisers. I have A LOT of Filson cruisers. And I've done surgeries to them over the years to make them the unicorn short cruiser types.
Anyways, the current Filson leather cruiser has lost its ways and turned into a trucker. I found those images of the Montgomery Ward jackets from BK's archive page. I over looked them the first time.
The thing that makes cruisers so special is the pocket setups. The patch is also the hand warmer which is very unique, like on the leather Ward jacket. The map pocket behind is actually an access to a double layered back, also very unique in design. The chest patch is sewn together with an inside chest pocket that has pen holders...etc. No extra waste, pure engineering genius. Lots of fashion brands (which I also had) just copied the patch pocket and the map pocket closure but not the real pocket setups. This Ward looked like the OG so I thought I ask if any has this original jacket and maybe a few detail photos of the insides.

 

[Marc mndt]

Thanks I've seen that one before.
I was looking for intel on the original cruisers. I have A LOT of Filson cruisers. And I've done surgeries to them over the years to make them the unicorn short cruiser types.
Anyways, the current Filson leather cruiser has lost its ways and turned into a trucker. I found those images of the Montgomery Ward jackets from BK's archive page. I over looked them the first time.
The thing that makes cruisers so special is the pocket setups. The patch is also the hand warmer which is very unique, like on the leather Ward jacket. The map pocket behind is actually an access to a double layered back, also very unique in design. The chest patch is sewn together with an inside chest pocket that has pen holders...etc. No extra waste, pure engineering genius. Lots of fashion brands (which I also had) just copied the patch pocket and the map pocket closure but not the real pocket setups. This Ward looked like the OG so I thought I ask if any has this original jacket and maybe a few detail photos of the insides.

Some additional pics :

https://www.instagram.com/p/COKHnpiDEqs/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

[JMax]

For comparison, look to be the same jacket different label. The HD jackets has obvious adornments which are not original.

Looks like it doesn’t it.

 

[JMax]

 

[tmitchell59]

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I love that jacket and I know you do too. No reproduction by any maker is going to equal that jacket.

The map pocket on these is so artful, graceful.

the only difference I see the rivets on the belt loops. Perhaps a, owner added, reinforcement?

 

[tmitchell59]

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Check out the map pocket on the back of this Wards jacket. Could this have been the original Short cruiser jacket design that morphed into modern Filson's line up.
Anyone with a vintage jacket that has this "map pocket" feature?
This jacket is not mine, I wish it were. Just found the images. I am big Filson cruiser fan.

pretty amazing jacket no matter the era. Leather game jackets must be pretty rare. I don't recall seeing one.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Is this what you guys meant by the "Map Pocket"?
Its too far back to use as hand warmer (at least on my Aero repro). Maybe for passenger?
On your vintage is this a lined pocket or does it provide access to the lining cavity and hence map pocket?

Thanks @Marc mndt That is one nice vintage store.
I was hoping for a direct translation into the leather version. This is my cloth version, the back looks like one piece but it's actually two pieces made into a "pouche". This jacket design is like swiss army knife. I carry things in my back like a back pack. Not stylish but very useful.

 

[tmitchell59]

I used the term map pocket instead of the more common term D pocket. It is referred to in advertising of the day to be a map pocket. Don't know who coined the word D pocket.

The pocket circled is a hand warmer pocket with a individual hand warmer pocket. The map pocket is leather inside, no lining.

 

[JMax]

I love that jacket and I know you do too. No reproduction by any maker is going to equal that jacket.

The map pocket on these is so artful, graceful.

the only difference I see the rivets on the belt loops. Perhaps a, owner added, reinforcement?

A number of the 50s HD D pocket jackets have the rivets. There were a few versions though.